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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The biggest mistake I ever made was taking Paxil for depression after my divorce > The decision to take psychiatric medications is a personal one. I have chosen to stop > taking medications. I made this choice on my own after doing much research on the subject. > I was given no support from my therapist or psychiatrist for wanting to stop taking meds > but I quit them anyway. I spent several months slowly tapering off meds. I am very happy > with my decision. > I no longer believe that I ever had bipolar disorder or schizoaffective disorder. > The biggest mistake I ever made was taking Paxil for depression after my divorce. Paxil > made me manic and gave me horrible mood swings. Paxil made me feel

homicidal, while taking > Paxil I obsessed about murdering a man and I had a plan. I asked my doctor for help > because I felt like killing a man, I told him I was not depressed but

"help" was to double – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my dose of Paxil. He noted in my chart that I was in a cheerful mood but he doubled my > Paxil. > On a double dose of paxil I became manic and obsessive and began to cut my own flesh. > While manic on Paxil I was diagnosed with "bipolar disorder" later as more drugs were > added I became sicker and sicker and my diagnosis was changed to "Schizoaffective > disorder". (I was also taken off Paxil cold turkey and this drug is known to cause > withdrawal psychosis / mania) Now that I have quit taking medications I am fine. I’ve not > had a mood swing or "psychotic episode" since I went off medications nearly a year ago. > The longer I took Anti psychotic medication the more psychotic I became. I had major > problems with Risperdal making me manic and psychotic. Risperdal is known to cause mania. > (Dwight and colleagues reported that six patients with Schizoaffective disorder all > developed new or increased manic symptoms after about a week of

risperidone treatment-and – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> two of these patients were taking "concomitant mood stabilizers.") But my doctors never > made the connection on their own. > Each time I tapered off my final anti psychotic (Seroquel) I became more psychotic that I > was before I took the medication. Doctors call this "rebound psychosis" but I waited it > out and the psychosis went away after a week. Each week I was able to taper down till I > was off it all together. Some people confuse drug withdrawal psychosis with the original > symptoms. > I am very angry for the pain my child and I have suffered through at the hands of > psychiatry. I now suffer from a drug Induced Movement disorder. I lost my innocence, my > childhood, my career, my self esteem, my college scholarship, a chance to go to high > school, and years of my daughter’s childhood to psychiatry and

indiscriminate psychiatric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> drugging. > I still see a therapist whom I mostly trust and now find the support that I get from her > to be invaluable. I had to quit taking meds for my mind to be clear enough for her to be > able to help me. > My goal is to tirelessly spread the word about the dangers of Psychiatry and psychiatric > drugging in the hopes that others will not have to go through what I did. >

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2:43 am   I think I a m doomed to use my intelligence to keep myself in turmoil because I am plagued by a pervasive feeling of emptiness and always have been. The best I can do is to produce music and art as a constructive way to use this impulse. Art is very therapeutic.   (care to comment?) Saturday, November 16th, 2002 6:32 pm Chimichanga and a panic attack to go   I’m frightened of fat Mexican women in Taquerias The kind with little shrines to Our Lady of Guadalupe On the Wall Because I figure they can see the demons inside me The demons my mother says are there Making me frightened Frightened of fat Mexican women in Taquerias   (care to comment?) Friday, November 15th, 2002 10:54 pm   At night I can still feel the dysphoria but it is distant, like in another room. So much so that I can work. I bet it has something to do with the buuildup of dopamine in my brain.   (3 thoughts | care to comment?) 5:47 pm   Alright, got the videos returned and got something to eat. Now back here. Got a salad for later. Feel bad for mom. current music: Melting Euphoria – Point Me at the Sky   (3 thoughts | care to comment?) 4:42 pm Recent developments   So depressed feel like in a full-body physical pain mood is about -2/-3. Find I can’t really do much of anything except lie here and wait for the pain to go away. Often feel on the verge of death, generally speaking. Major goal left for today is to go downstairs and return these two video tapes. Major accomplishment for the day was getting dressed and buying a couple of breakfast burritos across the street then sitting out in the sun in the courtyard for around 10 minutes. Felt self-conscious being looked at by the guy coiling hose by the pool, like I was drunk, still with a clear glass of water in my hand (booze?) looking like maybe I didn’t belong there. Slunk back to my room. Dr. Khoury called. They FINALLY noticed their horrible computer typo in my prescription. He asked me to accepted his apology and I accepted it. Said Kaiser should have caught the fact that 600mg a day of Topamax was way above the prescribed level and recognized it as a typo. Personally I’ve got my money on RU-486 to pull me out of the psychotic depression. Maybe the next Dr., Dr. Lee will go for it. Called Dr. Creiger at Kaiser to see about getting my mask refitted

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Montgomery  2780 N 4th St, Wytheville, VA (276) 228-4837

>Then perhaps U  SHOULD QUIT BRINGING IT UP! ! ! !

too bloody true!!!! Yes very true.. I don’t know why he brought it up, things were going so well.. V was so happy.. then Richard has to start that crap again… sigh… — Please sign my guest book http://www.virginiacaves.org/feedback.html

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i could post some more copyright law stuff? m~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cmon guys, You really need better Bullshit, This crap is so Yesterday, > Yawn, Yawn, Yawn. > Scott

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Just sit back and enjoy the show. Ivar spent over a million on this year’s fireworks display.

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Montgomery  2780 N 4th St, Wytheville, VA (276) 228-4837 >I’m all for going back to helping people with problems and finding >some new toons for the Hug and Roses band. >HoPpeR

Ha ha ha… we all know better than that.. try again dog killing faggot… — Please sign my guest book http://www.virginiacaves.org/feedback.html

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>After accusing Shawnie of hacking into other peoples computers when >they visited her web site

What precisely did you expect when you made these malicious allegations? >I don’t want to start a flame war, but

You expect any credibility here? >I can’t stand by and say >nothing about Shawnie stealing information from other peoples >computers which she will surely use against those persons in the >future.

You are impelled to make malicious allegations then? Your evidence for this is? >I only found out about the hacking when I finally broke down and >clicked on the link myself and had my firewall software warn me of the >port probe.

for someone who professes such computer knowledge its odd that you dont seem to know the differnce between a port probe and hacking!  I am pro-choice, but >would not under most conditions suggest to anyone to go against their >doctors advice, something that Shawnie does often.

Hundreds of people know you are lying here your evidence for this is? >   I want the group back >that I found a few years ago

things change over time. Do you really think you can just march into a group and rearrange it to your liking?  those who try to turn back the wheel of History inevitably end up crushed underneath it. Are you aware this was a happy supportive broad church before your recent arrival? Why not get off your high horse and just join in?

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I wish it would return to a support group, I get so tired of this shit. I know Shawnees puppets dont like me, But I dont care for them either. I think Paul aka Hopper, dont deserve this shit. I dont hnow how anyone can take her puppets seriously, some are even well liked, even though they dont exist. I am on Pauls side, at least hes a real person not a figment of some schizzos imagiation. Thanks,  ScottT

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> After accusing Shawnie of hacking into other peoples computers when > they visited her web site, Shawnie has started an all out campaign > against me and well just about everyone. This is a very good > opportunity for those that are confused as to who is who to pick out > the Shawnie sock puppets here. Look for the posters that are attacking > me and at the same time making explanations about how they are not > really Shawnie. Some are even suggesting that Shawnie is not a real > person but someone that I have made up. More sock puppets. Although > there may be a few individuals that post supporting Shawnie and attack > me that are not in fact Shawnie in drag, these people are few, Linda G > being one of them. This is fast escalating into an all out war against > me and I want to point out that I did not start it. All I did was > expose Shawnie’s hacking after she did this to me. I response to this > she now is: > 1.Fabricating  slanderous posts that are suppose to be by me in other > news groups that I either frequent or is geographically linked to me. > 2. Reposting actual posts by me to other NGs but changing the content > slightly to change the meaning altogether. > 3. Doing Google searches on me, which find mainly slanderous post made > in the past my her or Andrew and passing these off as being valid > information about me.(which it is not) > 4. Suggesting affiliations with groups and organizations that I have > never had anything to do with. > 5. Forging posts by other people that caste dispersions on me and the > person forged. > 6. Flooding other newsgroups with these posts in an attempt to > leverage me into keeping silent about her activities by attempting to > making the members of those other NG’s mad at me. (This does not work) > 7. She has over the past year or so selectively archived certain > manipulated posts while insuring that others did not get archived so > that a Google search would show a lopsided story of my and other > peoples history here. > 8. She attack not only me but my wife. She posts my real name, address > and phone number. She posts the name of my business which yes I am the > president of. > 9. She wrongly accuses me of animal cruelty. > 10. She wrongly accuses me of homosexuality which is not a crime and > nothing to be ashamed of anyway. It says something about her that she > thinks it is. > 11. She accuses me of being a oxycotin addict and a pot user. I was on > oxycotin three years ago under a doctors orders and have not taken any > sense. I freely admit to self medicating with pot before I say a > doctor and it was the best thing I could have done. I have not smoke > any in three years, since I started meds. She posts lies. > 12. She post that I use medications that I have never even seen > before. Pure fabrications that appear to get written down as they pop > into her head. > I don’t want to start a flame war, but I can’t stand by and say > nothing about Shawnie stealing information from other peoples > computers which she will surely use against those persons in the > future. She actively advertized her web sites and posted the links to > them in her tag line and the end of all her posts for some months now. > I only found out about the hacking when I finally broke down and > clicked on the link myself and had my firewall software warn me of the > port probe. > I have never met someone so single minded and devoted to creating a > false group of identities and using them to disrupt support groups. > She has admitted that she is on a crusade against psychiatric medicine > and mentally ill people. She has stated that she feels that they > should all be gotten rid of. She is dangerous > For the record, I am not against alternatives to medications for > mental illness. Indeed, I think that in almost all cases that other > forms of treatment should be used in conjunction. I am pro-choice, but > would not under most conditions suggest to anyone to go against their > doctors advice, something that Shawnie does often. > I want to end this, but I will not end it by being forced into > silence. I am going to do everything I can to keep this whole thing > from getting to the point of disrupting the group and I want very much > to go back to replying to those who ask BP related questions, or just > need help in getting through a tough time. This is what this group is > suppose to be about. It’s not what Shawnie wants it to be about. She > want’s it to be her platform to preach the evils of psychiatry. All > you beeper out there help me. Don’t let her keep this group down. > Learn to read the headers and take the time to do so. Make it so she > cannot hide behind her tricks and stand united I want the group back > that I found a few years ago that was so helpful to me that it most > likely saved my life, and yes back then I was unmedicated. > I’m all for going back to helping people with problems and finding > some new toons for the Hug and Roses band. > HoPpeR

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Shizoaffective is not what these two have and definitely not PTSD, and absolutely positively not bipolar. After three years of research, it comes to my attention that more in the area of Boarderline Personality Disorder and Dissociative Identity Disorder is closer to it, if getting stuck with DSM IV defs is all I get to choose from. http://www.soulselfhelp.on.ca/drm1.html "What is the difference between BPD and the spectrum of dissociative disorders?" and it’s

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don’t you mean honkey?

I can whup all of them.  

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > That makes sense, didn’t you say there was twice as many Latinos than blacks > at that school?  I always get a good laugh when darkshit (a regular poster > here at AFN) keeps saying that ‘whites’ will be a minority by 2050.  I > looked at those statistics and it shows that the Latinos will be the higher > number, and they hate blacks even more than we do. > Brojack… > Typically it is the Latino students who start the majority of the fights, > do > the majority of the grafitti, and cause the most problems at the school in > which I teach.  The Latino students have the highest gang membership rate > of > any student poulation followed by African Americans and then Asian.  Just > some facts for ya. > — J > > >> Of the 2,200. please estimate the no. of African-Americans and no. of > > >Latinos.< > > >Latino 56.8%, African American 22.5% > > Oh man, your school is not even 25% Afro-American.  You’re in a > > teacher’s paradise.  An educational sinecure.  Do you realize how many > > teachers in the East would give their eye teeth to teach in such a > > school?  In Baltimore, such schools are called "private" or > > "parochial." > > It’s no wonder that you’ve had relatively few problems. > > BroJack

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No.  Hunk He! yeehaw yahooie

don’t you mean honkey?

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I can whup all of them.   – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > That makes sense, didn’t you say there was twice as many Latinos than blacks > at that school?  I always get a good laugh when darkshit (a regular poster > here at AFN) keeps saying that ‘whites’ will be a minority by 2050.  I > looked at those statistics and it shows that the Latinos will be the higher > number, and they hate blacks even more than we do. > Brojack… > Typically it is the Latino students who start the majority of the fights, > do > the majority of the grafitti, and cause the most problems at the school in > which I teach.  The Latino students have the highest gang membership rate > of > any student poulation followed by African Americans and then Asian.  Just > some facts for ya. > — J > > >> Of the 2,200. please estimate the no. of African-Americans and no. of > > >Latinos.< > > >Latino 56.8%, African American 22.5% > > Oh man, your school is not even 25% Afro-American.  You’re in a > > teacher’s paradise.  An educational sinecure.  Do you realize how many > > teachers in the East would give their eye teeth to teach in such a > > school?  In Baltimore, such schools are called "private" or > > "parochial." > > It’s no wonder that you’ve had relatively few problems. > > BroJack

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> are you taking any other meds? > lamictal doesnt usually cause weight gain, but all meds can have an > effect on your liver – and therefore on your metabolism… > i havent heard any medical reports of this… but thats no reason to say > it doesnt… it’d be worth asking your pdoc…. > have you been depressed?… sometimes depression, even though you havent > changed eating patterns, can cause a little bit of weight gain because > of the reduced activity….. 7 pounds isnt much, maybe a light exercise > plan might help, i find it helps lots with the depression / mania too.. > uhh that is when i do it… ;-/… > i gained a lot of weight on trycyclic antidepressants a few years ago > and went on lamictal and zoloft specifically cos they’re not known to > enourage weight gain… > hth > m~ > I’ve been on a low dose of Lamictal for 2+ years.  In the last year I am > suddenly gaining wieght and realized I’ve gained about 7 pounds in 13 > months and I don’t really have another reason to which to attribute it. > Might lamictal cause weight gain and might it do so after taking it for > an extended period of time? > TIA > Louise

Thanks – I too gained a lot of weight years ago on elavil and then about 3 years ago, on Luvox. I was just worried that the Lamictal could be having the same effect.   You are correct though, that my activity level has been slightly reduced due to knee surgery a little over a year ago and that may be the cause. Louise

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I’ve been on a low dose of Lamictal for 2+ years.  In the last year I am suddenly gaining wieght and realized I’ve gained about 7 pounds in 13 months and I don’t really have another reason to which to attribute it. Might lamictal cause weight gain and might it do so after taking it for an extended period of time? TIA Louise

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are you taking any other meds? lamictal doesnt usually cause weight gain, but all meds can have an effect on your liver – and therefore on your metabolism… i havent heard any medical reports of this… but thats no reason to say it doesnt… it’d be worth asking your pdoc…. have you been depressed?… sometimes depression, even though you havent changed eating patterns, can cause a little bit of weight gain because of the reduced activity….. 7 pounds isnt much, maybe a light exercise plan might help, i find it helps lots with the depression / mania too.. uhh that is when i do it… ;-/… i gained a lot of weight on trycyclic antidepressants a few years ago and went on lamictal and zoloft specifically cos they’re not known to enourage weight gain… hth m~ > I’ve been on a low dose of Lamictal for 2+ years.  In the last year I am > suddenly gaining wieght and realized I’ve gained about 7 pounds in 13 > months and I don’t really have another reason to which to attribute it. > Might lamictal cause weight gain and might it do so after taking it for > an extended period of time? > TIA > Louise

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> They don’t make any good points about anything but their pocketbook. > What you call good ‘points about psychiatry’ is simply playing on people’s > fears. > Take their so-called personality test two or three times under different > mindsets and compare your results. > I did that awhile back and came up with an interesting set of results. > One set gave me 95 percentile across the board except in the gullibility > section. > The other gave 15-20 percentile across the board except the gullibility > section. > Oddly enough the gullibility rating on both was identical. zero > PS.  I really wish you wouldn’t hijack other people’s ‘nyms.

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Is there an echo in here, in here, in here, in her, in he, in h, in, i???

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Have I told you the ‘That’s nice." joke?

Did you know that I live in Ron L. Hubbards old homeport?

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http://www.the-answers.com/disconnection.html Doctor Exposes Psychiatry   In this following letter a doctor dissolves her 35 year association with the American Psychiatric Association: Loren R. Mosher M.D.  California, USA December 4, 1998 Rodrigo Munoz, M.D., President American Psychiatric Association Washington, D.C., USA   Dear Rod: After nearly three decades as a member it is with a mixture of pleasure and disappointment that   I submit this letter of resignation from the American Psychiatric Association. The major reason   for this action is my belief that I am actually resigning from the American Psychopharmacological Association. Luckily, the organization’s true identity requires no change in the acronym. APA reflects, and reinforces, in word and deed, our drug dependent society. Yet, it helps wage war on "drugs". "Dual Diagnosis" clients are a major problem for the field but not because of the "good" drugs we prescribe. "Bad" ones are those that are obtained mostly without a prescription. A Marxist would observe that being a good capitalist organization, APA likes only those drugs from which it can derive a profit–directly or indirectly.   This is not a group for me. At this point in history, in my view, psychiatry has been almost completely bought out by the drug companies. The APA could not continue without the pharmaceutical company support of meetings, symposia, workshops, journal advertising, grand rounds luncheons, unrestricted educational grants etc. etc. Psychiatrists have become the minions of drug company promotions.  APA, of course, maintains that its independence and autonomy are not compromised in this enmeshed situation.   Anyone with the least bit of common sense attending the annual meeting would observe how the drug company exhibits and industry sponsored symposia draw crowds with their various enticements while the serious scientific sessions are barely attended. Psychiatric training reflects their influence as well; i.e., the most important part of a resident curriculum is the art and quasi-science of dealing drugs, i.e., prescription writing. These psychopharmacological limitations on our abilities to be complete physicians also limit our intellectual horizons. No longer do we seek to understand whole persons in their social contexts, rather we are there to realign our patients’ neurotransmitters. The problem is that it is very difficult to have a relationship with a neurotransmitter, whatever its configuration. So, our guild organization provides a rationale, by its neurobiological tunnel vision, for keeping our distance from the molecule conglomerates we have come to define as patients.   We condone and promote the widespread overuse and misuse of toxic chemicals that we know have serious long term effects: tardive dyskinesia, tardive dementia and serious withdrawal syndromes.   So, do I want to be a drug company patsy who treats molecules with their formulary? No, thank you very much.   It saddens me that after 35 years as a psychiatrist I look forward to being dissociated from such an organization. In no way does it represent my interests. It is not within my capacities to buy into the current biomedical-reductionistic model heralded by the psychiatric leadership as once again marrying us to somatic medicine. This is a matter of fashion, politics and, like the pharmaceutical house connection, money. In addition, APA has entered into an unholy alliance with NAMI (I don’t remember the members being asked if they supported such an organization) such that the two organizations have adopted similar public belief systems about the nature of madness.   While professing itself the champion of their clients the APA is supporting non-clients, the parents, in their wishes to be in control, via legally enforced dependency, of their mad/bad offspring.  NAMI, with tacit APA approval, has set out a pro-neuroleptic drug and easy commitment-institutionalization agenda that violates the civil rights of their offspring.   For the most part we stand by and allow this fascistic agenda to move forward.   Their psychiatric god, Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, is allowed to diagnose and recommend treatment to those in the NAMI organization with whom he disagrees. Clearly, a violation of medical ethics. Does APA protest? Of course not, because he is speaking what APA agrees with but can’t explicitly espouse. He is allowed to be a foil; after all he is no longer a member of APA. (Slick work APA!) The shortsightedness of this marriage of convenience between APA, NAMI and the drug companies (who gleefully support both groups because of their shared pro-drug stance) is an abomination.   I want no part of a psychiatry of oppression and social control. Biologically based brain diseases are convenient for families and practitioners alike. It is no fault insurance against personal responsibility. We are just helplessly caught up in a swirl of brain pathology for which no one, except DNA, is responsible. Now, to begin with, anything that has an anatomically defined specific brain pathology becomes the province of neurology (syphilis is   an excellent example). So, to be consistent with this brain disease view all the major psychiatric disorders would become the territory of our neurologic colleagues. Without having surveyed them I believe they would eschew responsibility for these problematic individuals. However, consistency would demand our giving over biologic brain diseases to them.   The fact that there is no evidence confirming the brain disease attribution is, at this point, irrelevant. What we are dealing with here is fashion, politics and money. This level of intellectual/scientific dishonesty is just too egregious for me to continue to support by my membership. I view with no surprise that psychiatric training is being systemically disavowed by American medical school graduates. This must give us cause for concern about the state of today’s psychiatry. It must mean at least in part that they view psychiatry as being very limited and unchallenging.   To me it seems clear that we are headed toward a situation in which, except for academics, most psychiatric practitioners will have no real relationships–so vital to the healing process–with the disturbed and disturbing persons they treat. Their sole role will be that of prescription writers: ciphers in the guise of being "helpers". Finally, why must the APA pretend to know more than it does? DSM-IV is the fabrication upon which psychiatry seeks acceptance by medicine in general. Insiders know it is more a political than scientific document. To its credit it says so–although its brief apologia is rarely noted. DSM-IV has become a bible and a money making best seller–its major failings notwithstanding.   It confines and defines practice, some take it seriously, others more realistically. It is the way to get paid. Diagnostic reliability is easy to attain for research projects. The issue is what do the categories tell us? Do they in fact accurately represent the person with a problem?   They don’t, and can’t, because there are no external validating criteria for psychiatric diagnoses. There is neither a blood test nor specific anatomic lesions for any major psychiatric disorder. So, where are we? APA as an organization has implicitly (sometimes explicitly as well) bought into a theoretical hoax. Is psychiatry a hoax– as practiced today? Unfortunately, the answer is mostly yes. What do I recommend to the organization upon leaving after experiencing three decades of its history? 1. To begin with, let us be ourselves. Stop taking on unholy alliances without the members permission. 2. Get real about science, politics and money. Label each for what it is–that is, be honest. 3. Get out of bed with NAMI and the drug companies. APA should align itself, if one believes   its rhetoric, with the true consumer groups, i. e., the ex-patients, psychiatric survivors etc. 4. Talk to the membership. I can’t be alone in my views. We seem to have forgotten a basic principle: the need to be patient/client/consumer satisfaction oriented. I always remember Manfred Bleuler’s wisdom: "Loren, you must never forget that you are your patient’s employee. In the end they will determine whether or not psychiatry survives in the service marketplace. Sincerely, Loren R. Mosher M.D. By way of Piers Allott International Mental Health Network — I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser."                      -Mother Jones

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Did you know that I live in Ron L. Hubbards old homeport? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->They don’t make any good points about anything but their pocketbook. >What you call good ‘points about psychiatry’ is simply playing on people’s >fears. >Take their so-called personality test two or three times under different >mindsets and compare your results. >I did that awhile back and came up with an interesting set of results. >One set gave me 95 percentile across the board except in the gullibility >section. >The other gave 15-20 percentile across the board except the gullibility >section. >Oddly enough the gullibility rating on both was identical. zero >PS.  I really wish you wouldn’t hijack other people’s ‘nyms. >Ha I’m an athiest.. but scientology does make some good points about >psychiatry.. >Polanski" >When did you switch to supporting the Scientology scam, LostBoy?

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They don’t make any good points about anything but their pocketbook. What you call good ‘points about psychiatry’ is simply playing on people’s fears. Take their so-called personality test two or three times under different mindsets and compare your results. I did that awhile back and came up with an interesting set of results. One set gave me 95 percentile across the board except in the gullibility section. The other gave 15-20 percentile across the board except the gullibility section. Oddly enough the gullibility rating on both was identical. zero PS.  I really wish you wouldn’t hijack other people’s ‘nyms.

Ha I’m an athiest.. but scientology does make some good points about psychiatry.. Polanski" >When did you switch to supporting the Scientology scam, LostBoy?

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I’m not interested in their religion or their personality tests.. much of scientology is bull pucky… But they do make some good points about psychiatric drugz. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->They don’t make any good points about anything but their pocketbook. >What you call good ‘points about psychiatry’ is simply playing on people’s >fears. >Take their so-called personality test two or three times under different >mindsets and compare your results. >I did that awhile back and came up with an interesting set of results. >One set gave me 95 percentile across the board except in the gullibility >section. >The other gave 15-20 percentile across the board except the gullibility >section. >Oddly enough the gullibility rating on both was identical. zero >PS.  I really wish you wouldn’t hijack other people’s ‘nyms. >Ha I’m an athiest.. but scientology does make some good points about >psychiatry.. >Polanski" >When did you switch to supporting the Scientology scam, LostBoy?

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Ha I’m an athiest.. but scientology does make some good points about psychiatry.. >When did you switch to supporting the Scientology scam, LostBoy?

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When did you switch to supporting the Scientology scam, LostBoy?

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The rates for tardive dyskinesia are astronomical. The latest estimate from the American Psychiatric Association (1992, p. 68) indicates a rate for all patients of five per cent per year, so that 15 per cent of patients develop tardive dyskinesia within only three years. In long-term studies, the prevalence of tardive dyskinesia often exceeds 50 per cent of all treated patients and is probably much higher. The disease affects people of all ages, including children, but among older patients rates escalate. In a controlled study, 41 per cent of patients aged 65 and older developed tardive dyskinesia in a mere 24 months (Yassa et al., 1988). Hundreds of thousands of older people receive these drugs in nursing homes and state hospitals. — I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser."                      -Mother Jones

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Your math doesn’t work. 5 percent per year is ***5 percent per year***- out of 100 patients, 5 will show symptoms in a given year. The statistic is not cumulative. BTW:  TD is not necessarily permanent in everyone who shows initial symptoms, so stop the scare tactics.

> The rates for tardive dyskinesia are astronomical. The latest estimate from the American > Psychiatric Association (1992, p. 68) indicates a rate for all patients of five per cent > per year, so that 15 per cent of patients develop tardive dyskinesia within only three > years. In long-term studies, the prevalence of tardive dyskinesia often exceeds 50 per > cent of all treated patients and is probably much higher. The disease affects people of > all ages, including children, but among older patients rates escalate. In a controlled > study, 41 per cent of patients aged 65 and older developed tardive

dyskinesia in a mere 24 – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> months (Yassa et al., 1988). Hundreds of thousands of older people receive these drugs in > nursing homes and state hospitals. > — > I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser." >                      -Mother Jones

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It is cumulative. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Your math doesn’t work. 5 percent per year is ***5 percent per year***- out >of 100 patients, 5 will show symptoms in a given year. The statistic is not >cumulative. >BTW:  TD is not necessarily permanent in everyone who shows initial >symptoms, so stop the scare tactics. > The rates for tardive dyskinesia are astronomical. The latest estimate >from the American > Psychiatric Association (1992, p. 68) indicates a rate for all patients of >five per cent > per year, so that 15 per cent of patients develop tardive dyskinesia >within only three > years. In long-term studies, the prevalence of tardive dyskinesia often >exceeds 50 per > cent of all treated patients and is probably much higher. The disease >affects people of > all ages, including children, but among older patients rates escalate. In >a controlled > study, 41 per cent of patients aged 65 and older developed tardive >dyskinesia in a mere 24 > months (Yassa et al., 1988). Hundreds of thousands of older people receive >these drugs in > nursing homes and state hospitals. > — > I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser." >                      -Mother Jones

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wrong… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Your math doesn’t work. 5 percent per year is ***5 percent per year***- out >of 100 patients, 5 will show symptoms in a given year. The statistic is not >cumulative. >BTW:  TD is not necessarily permanent in everyone who shows initial >symptoms, so stop the scare tactics. > The rates for tardive dyskinesia are astronomical. The latest estimate >from the American > Psychiatric Association (1992, p. 68) indicates a rate for all patients of >five per cent > per year, so that 15 per cent of patients develop tardive dyskinesia >within only three > years. In long-term studies, the prevalence of tardive dyskinesia often >exceeds 50 per > cent of all treated patients and is probably much higher. The disease >affects people of > all ages, including children, but among older patients rates escalate. In >a controlled > study, 41 per cent of patients aged 65 and older developed tardive >dyskinesia in a mere 24 > months (Yassa et al., 1988). Hundreds of thousands of older people receive >these drugs in > nursing homes and state hospitals. > — > I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser." >                      -Mother Jones

– I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser."                      -Mother Jones

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Great job Charles! Warren

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Seems like the Drop-Shot is still going on up here. I had one bass in the > boat, and another one "quick-released", LedBelly had three total. Winds were > 20-31MPH so doing much of anything was tough work. We were both pleased to > do what we did. > — > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > www.midtennclassic.org > Sorry you didn’t get to visit with Bob.  I hope you & Ledbelly do great. > The Trap strategy is a winner up here when the temps are 48-60 degrees, I > can tell you that pal. > Full report expected! > Warren > > Unfortunately, I was unable to visit. Had alot of bass to discuss with > him > > too. > > Ledbelly and I will have to hit the Priest in the morning to make up for > it > > though. Water level and temps are dropping, and the winds are up. Should > be > > an interesting morning. I’m thinking Chrome/Blue Rattletraps myself! > What’s > > your opinion? > > — > > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > > www.midtennclassic.org > > > Welcome back Charles.  How was your visit with Bob?  You didn’t talk > about > > > bass fishing by any chance, did ya? > > > Warren > > > — > > > http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ > > > http://www.millenniumcustomrods.com/ > > > http://warrenwolk.com/ > > > http://tri-statebassmasters.com/ > > > > Leave for 3 days… and only 10 new threads??? Heck… I thought I > was > > > > missing out on something. > > > > — > > > > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > > > > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > > > > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > > > > www.midtennclassic.org

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Seems like the Drop-Shot is still going on up here. I had one bass in the boat, and another one "quick-released", LedBelly had three total. Winds were 20-31MPH so doing much of anything was tough work. We were both pleased to do what we did. — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sorry you didn’t get to visit with Bob.  I hope you & Ledbelly do great. > The Trap strategy is a winner up here when the temps are 48-60 degrees, I > can tell you that pal. > Full report expected! > Warren > Unfortunately, I was unable to visit. Had alot of bass to discuss with him > too. > Ledbelly and I will have to hit the Priest in the morning to make up for > it > though. Water level and temps are dropping, and the winds are up. Should > be > an interesting morning. I’m thinking Chrome/Blue Rattletraps myself! > What’s > your opinion? > — > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > www.midtennclassic.org > > Welcome back Charles.  How was your visit with Bob?  You didn’t talk > about > > bass fishing by any chance, did ya? > > Warren > > — > > http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ > > http://www.millenniumcustomrods.com/ > > http://warrenwolk.com/ > > http://tri-statebassmasters.com/ > > > Leave for 3 days… and only 10 new threads??? Heck… I thought I was > > > missing out on something. > > > — > > > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > > > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > > > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > > > www.midtennclassic.org

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Sorry you didn’t get to visit with Bob.  I hope you & Ledbelly do great. The Trap strategy is a winner up here when the temps are 48-60 degrees, I can tell you that pal. Full report expected! Warren

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Unfortunately, I was unable to visit. Had alot of bass to discuss with him > too. > Ledbelly and I will have to hit the Priest in the morning to make up for it > though. Water level and temps are dropping, and the winds are up. Should be > an interesting morning. I’m thinking Chrome/Blue Rattletraps myself! What’s > your opinion? > — > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > www.midtennclassic.org > Welcome back Charles.  How was your visit with Bob?  You didn’t talk about > bass fishing by any chance, did ya? > Warren > — > http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ > http://www.millenniumcustomrods.com/ > http://warrenwolk.com/ > http://tri-statebassmasters.com/ > > Leave for 3 days… and only 10 new threads??? Heck… I thought I was > > missing out on something. > > — > > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > > www.midtennclassic.org

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Leave for 3 days… and only 10 new threads??? Heck… I thought I was missing out on something. — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org

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Welcome back Charles.  How was your visit with Bob?  You didn’t talk about bass fishing by any chance, did ya? Warren — http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ http://www.millenniumcustomrods.com/ http://warrenwolk.com/ http://tri-statebassmasters.com/

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Leave for 3 days… and only 10 new threads??? Heck… I thought I was > missing out on something. > — > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > www.midtennclassic.org

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Unfortunately, I was unable to visit. Had alot of bass to discuss with him too. Ledbelly and I will have to hit the Priest in the morning to make up for it though. Water level and temps are dropping, and the winds are up. Should be an interesting morning. I’m thinking Chrome/Blue Rattletraps myself! What’s your opinion? — Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" www.outdoorfrontiers.com www.midtennclassic.org

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Welcome back Charles.  How was your visit with Bob?  You didn’t talk about > bass fishing by any chance, did ya? > Warren > — > http://www.fishingworld.com/MesaTackleSupply/ > http://www.millenniumcustomrods.com/ > http://warrenwolk.com/ > http://tri-statebassmasters.com/ > Leave for 3 days… and only 10 new threads??? Heck… I thought I was > missing out on something. > — > Visit Charles at: www.thebasspro.net > My new Motto: "Too invested to quit" > www.outdoorfrontiers.com > www.midtennclassic.org

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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> I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to > see – it will definitely be my last visit.  

I wonder if you did come back to see if anybody read your post and made comment?

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I decided to finally look around the newsgroups and see what there was to see – it will definitely be my last visit.  I belong to a few dog-related discussion lists on the ‘net, and the behavior of some of the AOL posters on this newsgroup would get them bounced of those lists so fast they would get thrown back in their chairs!  The language is horrible, and the personal insults and flames are incredibly childish.  For those of you who agree, and want a more appropriate discussion list – look around in Pet Care Forum for the addresses of breed and other dog-related lists – I think you’ll find the internet lists much more civil, and useful.  I’m not saying that discussions don’t get heated, and there may be an occassional flame or poor choice of words – but it is the exception rather than the rule that it appears to be on this list!  I believe that some of the AOL posters will be "left behind" because their behavior would not be tolerated.  Sure glad I’m not a family member or pet of some of the folks on here!

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>x-no-archive: yes >    If I understand this, you think BPII’s should re-evaluate our medication on >the basis of your experience that encompasses less than a month.  To boot you are >19, most people have their first major episode in their late twenties.  If >medication does not agree with you, and you do fine without it, great.  However, I >think you have to look a little further than your own brief experience before you >decide that we are poorly informed.  You may be eating your words later.  You are >still very young, and this disease progresses.  Maybe you have read about the >’Kindling Theory’.  Last but not least, you may have been misdiagnosed.  Come back >in a few years.

Which is the kind way of putting it.  Thank you John for showing this young man back into his little neurotic closet—-IS – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hey, guys.  I haven’t posted in a while, so let me fill you in on the goods: I > think the last I told you, I had been on a bad mixture of Depakote and > Wellbutrin.  This was the post: "I wanna be sane!" > Anyway, I needed to get off the Wellbutrin, and fast.  Since Depakote alone > was triggering depression, and the only real problem I had before all of > this started was hypomania, my Pdoc said that he thought I was ready (after > much begging on my part) to try to withdraw from the Depakote (and meds) > altogether.  He had me cut my intake to a half-dose for 2 weeks, then totally > drop it.  I’ve been completely off of meds for a whole week, and I haven’t > felt this good in so long!  This pretty much proves my theory that the goddam > meds actually induced bipolar in me.  My symptoms were so much worse when I > was on meds.  They hurt me much more than they helped.  I feel so strong that > I was able to break away from the madness, and just deal with my original > problem (hypomania) with a good diet, exercise, and relaxation techniques.  I > strongly recommend bipolar IIs who trust themselves to get up enough courage > (this may take weeks, months, or even years) to educate yourself about > your illness to the fullest extent, and believe in yourself enough to > influence your Pdoc into the decision that’s best for you.  Don’t settle for > second best.  If you felt better before, trust your instincts.  It may be well > worth it for you.  Yeah, I’m hypomanic again, and it’s a small struggle > every day, but it’s a sacrifice that I’m willing to make in exchange for a > piece of sanity and to be chemical-free. > Thanks! > Love to everyone, >               Heather. > "If I say it enough, I’ll believe that it’s not my fault."  (How to Survive a > Broken Heart- Ben Lee)

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Hey, guys.  I haven’t posted in a while, so let me fill you in on the goods: I think the last I told you, I had been on a bad mixture of Depakote and Wellbutrin.  This was the post: "I wanna be sane!" Anyway, I needed to get off the Wellbutrin, and fast.  Since Depakote alone was triggering depression, and the only real problem I had before all of this started was hypomania, my Pdoc said that he thought I was ready (after much begging on my part) to try to withdraw from the Depakote (and meds) altogether.  He had me cut my intake to a half-dose for 2 weeks, then totally drop it.  I’ve been completely off of meds for a whole week, and I haven’t felt this good in so long!  This pretty much proves my theory that the goddam meds actually induced bipolar in me.  My symptoms were so much worse when I was on meds.  They hurt me much more than they helped.  I feel so strong that I was able to break away from the madness, and just deal with my original problem (hypomania) with a good diet, exercise, and relaxation techniques.  I strongly recommend bipolar IIs who trust themselves to get up enough courage (this may take weeks, months, or even years) to educate yourself about your illness to the fullest extent, and believe in yourself enough to influence your Pdoc into the decision that’s best for you.  Don’t settle for second best.  If you felt better before, trust your instincts.  It may be well worth it for you.  Yeah, I’m hypomanic again, and it’s a small struggle every day, but it’s a sacrifice that I’m willing to make in exchange for a piece of sanity and to be chemical-free. Thanks! Love to everyone,               Heather. "If I say it enough, I’ll believe that it’s not my fault."  (How to Survive a Broken Heart- Ben Lee)

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What follows are the rants that were submitted between December 2000 and June 6th 2001. 04 Dec 2000 Time: 21:03:11 Remote User: – Comments SKB—Go to hell!! You are a bunch of lying, moneygrubbing as*hol**!!!! I was not told of potential withdrawal problems, I have been going through hell. My fourth attempt at getting off paxil I think has succeeded, I have been off 2 weeks but it has been a complete nightmare weaning and stopping. I was very physically sick-nausea, zaps, dizziness. You will pay for this someday. I am 30 yrs ola and sometime before I die I hope to see your ass in court. 08 Dec 2000 Time: 15:15:32 Remote User: – Comments To SKB: I can’t even begin to tell you sobs how much you mess up my life. You should be sued to where you have to go out of business. How dare you do this to people. Take on the responsiblity and do something now!!!!!! In my eyes you are killers. This is a huge 10 Dec 2000 Time: 16:59:32 Remote User: – Comments My name is rosanne , I was on 10 mg of paxil for 14 months then I tried to wean off . it took 8 months to wean off slowly. ever since I went on the paxil I felt like I was on a boat and had many other vestibular problems.that were not there before the paxil. also twitches andd other neurological feelings . It turned me into a stepford wife. anyway after finally going through the hell of withdrawl and panic anxiety dzziness like never before when I was finally off it I now still have all the vestibular problems have had to stop work and it is 2 years off the drug . I have been to every type of dr .every test . finally a dr has beleived it is the paxil and I was toxically exposed . what are you going to do to help the resst of my life that your drug has ruined. and 10 Dec 2000 Time: 20:52:59 Remote User: – Comments What the hell. I thought I was alone. I have been on paxil for at least a year. My eyeballs stick and then bolt to the other side. It is sickening! This is when I miss a day or so. How the hell am I going to get off this stuff? Nobody ever told me that if I wanted to stop this would be a result. Why does SKB website not talk about the withdrawl? SKB you suck for not telling us! 03 Jan 2001 Time: 21:28:12 Remote User: – Comments Dear SKB I am 36 years old wit h 2 young childern , a husband, a full time employee of Boehringer Ingel heim Pharmaceuticals. YOUR DRUG- PAXIL- HAS SERIOUS AND DANGEROUS WITHDRAWL EFFECTS> I was prescribed 20 mg dose 16 months ago ( but have only been taking 10 mg daily faithfully) for stress and complaints to my doctor about PMS 10 days a month. Good News , 10 mg significantly reduced my pms symptons which my family members truly appreciated but 25 pound weight gain in 16 months has left me feeling lousy so as of 12/30/00 , I began to wean by cutting to 5 mg daily and 72 hours later I am PLAGUED with nausea, vomiting, delayed vision, vertigo, chills, and constant tingling/ needle sensation suggesting my neurons are synasping into overdrive. Uncover your real Clinical Phase IV findings and treat your customers with respect; properly and ethically label your product. A very close friend is a producer at 20/20 and I will be asking her to once again revisit their paxil story. I know I can survive this but will use my energy to educate consumers. 13 Jan 2001 Time: 11:53:06 Remote User: – Comments My husband, 4 yr old daughter and I have been living in hell. Four yrs ago my husband started taking paxil for anxiety/depression. Over the yrs he has tried numerous times to get off the drug to no avail each and every time he has had to return to taking it because the withdrawls are so severe. My husband experiences extreme ANGER in his withdrawl it is absolutely uncontrollable and has resulted in having to take a week at a time off work. Our general physician who initially prescribed this drug is not educated in its withdrawl effects and so we were refered to a another physician who also seemed uneducated about the side-effects {including sexual disfunction, tiredness, dizziness,). We are in our early thirties, and feel we have no choice, but to deal with the side-effects of paxil rather than facing the hell of coming off Paxil. 13 Jan 2001 Time: 14:07:08 Remote User: – Comments To Whom It May Concern: I am a Registered Nurse who has been on Paxil since the spring of 2000. After several attempts to get off of your medication I am still going through terrible side effects. How would you like to be feeling nauseated all day long every day, have headaches, and feel like someone is giving you shocks of electricity every time you move your body whether it be you head, mouth, arm, leg etc. It’s a horrible way to have to go through withdrawal and because of this I am still having to take it. I can’t even get myself off by weening back my dose. I am a Registered Nurse and my anxiety is worse now then before I took it. How you could put this crap on the market knowing full well the complications it was going to cause people is beyond me. Like so many other drugs that are prescribed the bottom line is the buck and how much you stand to profit. PULL THE DRUG. Its obvious that the long term effects of taking the medication were never studied properly and along with the makers of PROZAC you should all be held responsible for the distress you are putting people through……Rhonda McDonald, RN 14 Jan 2001 Time: 19:13:42 Remote User: – Comments Life on earth is short. You should be ashamed that you have spent yours carelessly addicting helpless people to the drug Paxil, just for monetary gain. Do you not realize that you will spend eternity making up for this crime against those who mearly sought help? May you all rot in hell. Former Paxil user. 16 Jan 2001 Time: 22:41:07 Remote User: – Comments My name is Thomas Mokoid, I live in Coventry Ct., i have taken 40mg of paxil for nine months, cut down to 20mg for two months and I am now going through pure hell. Shocks,

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