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Hi.. me again    Well, it happened. My primary care doctor decided that SINCE I went to the pain clinic that he would only give me two weeks worth of medication. I had hoped and prayed that the pain clinic would decide a treatment plan before I ran out. I tried really hard to limit my usage but my life is just too demanding physically.    I’ve been suffering withdrawls since Friday. I finally got irritated enough to call my primary care doctors office on Saturday. Of course, my regular doctor was not on call. His associate was. Not only was the guy rude but he totally refused to rx ANY narcotics period. I said, look, I understand that and am NOT expecting you to rx any narcotics. I want you to HELP me get THROUGH this withdrawl. Needless to say, he flat refused. I tried to be persistent. I said what am I supposed to do? He had absolutely no answers for me.     Yesterday, I went into such a deep depression that I believe if I had a gun I would have done it. The depression, I realise is part of withdrawl but it was horrific. The utter despair that you feel. I feel even now that hope is not in my future.    Many of the older posters here have been with me since my first post. Look at what I have gone through!! I just am not sure that I can continue to handle it anymore.    It’s like a wheel that my rats run on. I hurt, I get meds, the meds are not strong enough to actually help the pain, so I still hurt. Then I don’t have meds and withdrawl. Then I get meds and start the cycle all over again. I just cannot take it. On or off medication my life seems pretty bleak right now.    Sure, Sure not feeling human is part of withdrawl… but, I realised something. I have not felt human for a very VERY long time.    I stayed away from the group when not in pain because of the flames. I tend to say really dumb things sometimes or I state something that someone takes the wrong way and end up getting flamed.    I don’t know what to do and I do not think I can handle this. Tammy

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>Hi.. me again

                                <snippage> – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->   Many of the older posters here have been with me since my first post. >Look at what I have gone through!! I just am not sure that I can continue to >handle it anymore. >   It’s like a wheel that my rats run on. I hurt, I get meds, the meds are >not strong enough to actually help the pain, so I still hurt. Then I don’t >have meds and withdrawl. Then I get meds and start the cycle all over again. >I just cannot take it. On or off medication my life seems pretty bleak right >now. >   Sure, Sure not feeling human is part of withdrawl… but, I realised >something. I have not felt human for a very VERY long time. >   I stayed away from the group when not in pain because of the flames. I >tend to say really dumb things sometimes or I state something that someone >takes the wrong way and end up getting flamed. >   I don’t know what to do and I do not think I can handle this. >Tammy

    Tammy, if everyone stayed away for those reasons…there wouldn’t BE a pain group!  :-)     I understand what you’re going through Tammy..honestly I do. I’m so sorry that this doctor turned out to be another of ‘them"  Please don’t let those "bad apples" you’ve seen cause you to stop seeking what you need.   As you know, there are several sies which offer a referral. Please don’t let THEM win!  If you need help finding the sites again, please write me, and I’ll look for them and send them to you again. You may be feeling horrible now, but look at it as just another low spot, and another doctor you had to get past to find the one who WILL take good care of you…there IS help. To start out, there is emergency help as well as doctor referral info on the site David Lambourne brought to us..              http://www.painfoundation.org/ Please look around here, check the link for "PainAid" perhaps you’ll find what you need. There are also experts there for you to ask all sorts of questions. Take good care please,  codeee

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >     Tammy, if everyone stayed away for those reasons…there wouldn’t > BE a pain group!  :-) >     I understand what you’re going through Tammy..honestly I do. I’m > so sorry that this doctor turned out to be another of ‘them"  Please > don’t let those "bad apples" you’ve seen cause you to stop seeking > what you need. >   As you know, there are several sies which offer a referral. Please > don’t let THEM win!  If you need help finding the sites again, please > write me, and I’ll look for them and send them to you again. > You may be feeling horrible now, but look at it as just another low > spot, and another doctor you had to get past to find the one who WILL > take good care of you…there IS help. > To start out, there is emergency help as well as doctor referral info > on the site David Lambourne brought to us.. >              http://www.painfoundation.org/ > Please look around here, check the link for "PainAid" perhaps you’ll > find what you need. There are also experts there for you to ask all > sorts of questions. > Take good care please, >  codeee

 Codeee,    Thanks for replying. I still feel alone The other reason I think I stay away is because this place reminds me that I am in pain. It reminds me of all the issues connected to being in pain. I am defignitely trying to avoid the entire issue when I am medicated and able to live…    It’s times like this that it all comes back to me and I start to realize how hopeless everything really is. Tammy

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->     Tammy, if everyone stayed away for those reasons…there wouldn’t > BE a pain group!  :-) >     I understand what you’re going through Tammy..honestly I do. I’m > so sorry that this doctor turned out to be another of ‘them"  Please > don’t let those "bad apples" you’ve seen cause you to stop seeking > what you need. >   As you know, there are several sies which offer a referral. Please > don’t let THEM win!  If you need help finding the sites again, please > write me, and I’ll look for them and send them to you again. > You may be feeling horrible now, but look at it as just another low > spot, and another doctor you had to get past to find the one who WILL > take good care of you…there IS help. > To start out, there is emergency help as well as doctor referral info > on the site David Lambourne brought to us.. >              http://www.painfoundation.org/ > Please look around here, check the link for "PainAid" perhaps you’ll > find what you need. There are also experts there for you to ask all > sorts of questions. > Take good care please, >  codeee > Codeee, >   Thanks for replying. I still feel alone >The other reason I think I stay away is because this place reminds me that I >am in pain. It reminds me of all the issues connected to being in pain. I am >defignitely trying to avoid the entire issue when I am medicated and able to >live… >   It’s times like this that it all comes back to me and I start to realize >how hopeless everything really is. >Tammy

        I know it sounds bleak and hopeless now Tammy…many of us know how that feels.  The good side is that many have found a way out of it, and help.  Please keep fighting for "YOU"..you’re worth it, and it may take some time FOR yourself…but it can be done! codeee

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Don’t give up Tammy.  Please.  Give the Pain Clinic a chance to get you on a proper pain regimen, and if they do not seek help elsewhere.  I went through tree years of hell until I found my pain managment doctor.  He literally saved my life.  I know you will be able to find help and relief if you just don’t give up.  Life will get better if you stick with it.  Good luck and may you be pain free soon. sz

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi.. me again >    Well, it happened. My primary care doctor decided that SINCE I went to > the pain clinic that he would only give me two weeks worth of medication. I > had hoped and prayed that the pain clinic would decide a treatment plan > before I ran out. I tried really hard to limit my usage but my life is just > too demanding physically. >    I’ve been suffering withdrawls since Friday. I finally got irritated > enough to call my primary care doctors office on Saturday. Of course, my > regular doctor was not on call. His associate was. Not only was the guy rude > but he totally refused to rx ANY narcotics period. I said, look, I > understand that and am NOT expecting you to rx any narcotics. I want you to > HELP me get THROUGH this withdrawl. Needless to say, he flat refused. I > tried to be persistent. I said what am I supposed to do? He had absolutely > no answers for me. >     Yesterday, I went into such a deep depression that I believe if I had a > gun I would have done it. The depression, I realise is part of withdrawl but > it was horrific. The utter despair that you feel. I feel even now that hope > is not in my future. >    Many of the older posters here have been with me since my first post. > Look at what I have gone through!! I just am not sure that I can continue to > handle it anymore. >    It’s like a wheel that my rats run on. I hurt, I get meds, the meds are > not strong enough to actually help the pain, so I still hurt. Then I don’t > have meds and withdrawl. Then I get meds and start the cycle all over again. > I just cannot take it. On or off medication my life seems pretty bleak right > now. >    Sure, Sure not feeling human is part of withdrawl… but, I realised > something. I have not felt human for a very VERY long time. >    I stayed away from the group when not in pain because of the flames. I > tend to say really dumb things sometimes or I state something that someone > takes the wrong way and end up getting flamed. >    I don’t know what to do and I do not think I can handle this. > Tammy

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Tammy I hope by the time you read this you have really considered Richards advice. Ronnie

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hi.. me again >    Well, it happened. My primary care doctor decided that SINCE I went to > the pain clinic that he would only give me two weeks worth of medication. > I > had hoped and prayed that the pain clinic would decide a treatment plan > before I ran out. I tried really hard to limit my usage but my life is > just > too demanding physically. >    I’ve been suffering withdrawls since Friday. I finally got irritated > enough to call my primary care doctors office on Saturday. Of course, my > regular doctor was not on call. His associate was. Not only was the guy > rude > but he totally refused to rx ANY narcotics period. I said, look, I > understand that and am NOT expecting you to rx any narcotics. I want you > to > HELP me get THROUGH this withdrawl. Needless to say, he flat refused. I > tried to be persistent. I said what am I supposed to do? He had absolutely > no answers for me. >     Yesterday, I went into such a deep depression that I believe if I had > a > gun I would have done it. The depression, I realise is part of withdrawl > but > it was horrific. The utter despair that you feel. I feel even now that > hope > is not in my future. >    Many of the older posters here have been with me since my first post. > Look at what I have gone through!! I just am not sure that I can continue > to > handle it anymore. >    It’s like a wheel that my rats run on. I hurt, I get meds, the meds are > not strong enough to actually help the pain, so I still hurt. Then I don’t > have meds and withdrawl. Then I get meds and start the cycle all over > again. > I just cannot take it. On or off medication my life seems pretty bleak > right > now. >    Sure, Sure not feeling human is part of withdrawl… but, I realised > something. I have not felt human for a very VERY long time. >    I stayed away from the group when not in pain because of the flames. I > tend to say really dumb things sometimes or I state something that someone > takes the wrong way and end up getting flamed. >    I don’t know what to do and I do not think I can handle this. > Tammy > Tammy , >    Saying dumb things and getting flamed is irrelevant > compared to not wanting to go on anymore . There > have been so many times I have just wanted to give > up , but I always talk myself into holding on a little > longer . I have driven myself to the E.R. and told > the triage nurse that I want to die . I went there > because I was serious and didn’t know if I could make > it through the day . I was surprised at the high level > of treatment I received for feeling suicidal . >    Tammy , if withdrawal has you suicidal , go to the > E.R. Just do it . There are meds that can ease your > withdrawals and meds that can lift your spirits . > You have a right to adequate and proper care , > especially in an emergency . Please consider it . > Peace , > Richard

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>Hey Me again… >   I woke up this morning actually feeling okay. Is that the difference between addicts and dependancy? I hurt badly. However, most of the horrid withdrawl is gone. I have read all over the web that this will take months to recover from (withdrawl). It apparently is mostly over for me? How come? I am real confused now. >    I am not depressed as much anymore. I am frustrated that I cannot help our financial situation by working. I am tired of being in pain. That never seems to change. I am just confused as to why I do not have withdrawl symptoms still? >Tammy

The first part is wonderul news!   Don’t question, be happy they’re mostly over Tammy! It does sound as though your physical dependancy on them is over, and if you were "addicted" to them, the cravings..(not WD symptoms), but cravings  would be overshelming. The fact that you were able to do this, without falling apart should count for something in the eys  of a new doctor!  That’s one less thing to deal with as you put "Operation Tammy’s Doctor" into effect.   This is teh perfect time to focus your energy upon finding yourself  a good one who won’t play games, and will provide you the means to get what you need to lessen the pain.  Please don’t leave ay rock unturned….this dark period in your life, may well lead o the major breakthrough”that you need.. codeee

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Tammy, It has been a long time since I posted here because of the flame wars, this is not the place to get that when you are here for support. I understand your staying away 100%. I also am responding because like you, I was thrown into heavy withdrawals. To begin with I was on heavy diluadid for 5 years and cut off with only a small taper down period. This gave me very bad shakes which led to high blood pressure, with almost a stroke in the meantime. It has been 4 months and I am still withdrawing, I have a new doctor who still has just got around to getting my medicine back in line. What I would like for you to do is go to the hospital this quack of yours is tied to. Find the founders names of the system and write them a lot letters, emails, phone calls even meet them in the parking lot. The more top guys the better. Tell them everything about what is going on. If you get your complaining done right, I promise you something will be done. They will investigate these quacks, even go into their office and start going through their records. The more noise you make the more will be done. You can possibly shut down some quacks and run them out of business. I got this smartass x pain doctor who wishes I was dead because I brought the wrath of the medical community down on his ass and he is on the verge of losing his practice. He nearly cost me my life with the withdrawal damage. If not for some quick thinking of changing doctors and a lot of begging to investigate my withdrawals, I would not have made it this far. Death was so close just from the pain of not having my medicine. I have developed tremors directly from having my medicine taken from me. Now is not the time to cave in until you get the message out to anyone who can destroy the guy who is trying to destroy you. You got nothing to lose sister. Take these bastards out before they do you. You can become his worse nightmare this way. Quacks hate it when go over their heads. Please do not take this from a quack. It is illegal for them to do this to you. I got thoughts and prayers for you, Withdrawal is worse than a head on wreck, Thanks for listening…… 1956

Hi.. me again    Well, it happened. My primary care doctor decided that SINCE I went to the pain clinic that he would only give me two weeks worth of medication. I had hoped and prayed that the pain clinic would decide a treatment plan before I ran out. I tried really hard to limit my usage but my life is just too demanding physically.    I’ve been suffering withdrawls since Friday. I finally got irritated enough to call my primary care doctors office on Saturday. Of course, my regular doctor was not on call. His associate was. Not only was the guy rude but he totally refused to rx ANY narcotics period. I said, look, I understand that and am NOT expecting you to rx any narcotics. I want you to HELP me get THROUGH this withdrawl. Needless to say, he flat refused. I tried to be persistent. I said what am I supposed to do? He had absolutely no answers for me.     Yesterday, I went into such a deep depression that I believe if I had a gun I would have done it. The depression, I realise is part of withdrawl but it was horrific. The utter despair that you feel. I feel even now that hope is not in my future.    Many of the older posters here have been with me since my first post. Look at what I have gone through!! I just am not sure that I can continue to handle it anymore.    It’s like a wheel that my rats run on. I hurt, I get meds, the meds are not strong enough to actually help the pain, so I still hurt. Then I don’t have meds and withdrawl. Then I get meds and start the cycle all over again. I just cannot take it. On or off medication my life seems pretty bleak right now.    Sure, Sure not feeling human is part of withdrawl… but, I realised something. I have not felt human for a very VERY long time.    I stayed away from the group when not in pain because of the flames. I tend to say really dumb things sometimes or I state something that someone takes the wrong way and end up getting flamed.    I don’t know what to do and I do not think I can handle this. Tammy

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>x-no-archive: yes >I love you, too, dearie.

thats nice . I will sleep so much better knowing that BTW any idea how acid bitch is doing?

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NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup-65.56.61.43.dial1.cleveland1.level3.net (65.56.61.43) >x-no-archive: yes >Your obsession with Hopper has become boring beyond the capacity of >words to describe. >It’s time to stalk someone else. >Why don’t you stalk me? >I think I’ve become a paragon as far as medications are concerned, and >yet I manage to function very well.

Function well? you call posting this to a support group functioning well? You dont give a toss for Hopper or you wouldnt have posted this. Its the very last thing he would have wanted to happen

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400 mg of Ultram? I used take Ultram as I have a mild case of Ehlers Danlos Syndrome, a connective tissue disorder. I can do amazing tricks like crossing my elbows behind my back. I should have joined the circus. As I showed off my special talents I worsened my condition. Eventually I was given Ultram, 50 mg 4 times a day. It made me so sick, throwing up, dizzy, had to cut back to 100. How do you do it, especially with all those other drugs on board? I think I might be admiring you. -alabaster

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> x-no-archive: yes > Ultram, 400 mg daily,         two 50 mg tabs four times a day as > needed. > I can take the Ultram, as much as two 50mg tabs four times a day, as > needed, for pain from the fibromyalgia, which rears its ugly head > commonly when I’m under extreme stress. I’ve only had to take it two or > three times weekly since this latest mixed episode cycle began, but, > like I already said, I’m sure that the Neurontin is what’s keeping it in > remission, because it wasn’t until after I started my present dose of > Neurontin that my fibromyalgia has been in remission most of the time.

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you win the award for the most medicated person i have ever run across… clonazepam, 8 mg daily  – surely you are joking? your withdrawel, and it will come some day, will be a mo’fo’ Wellbutrin SR, 500 mg daily — another joke, speedy man, buzz buzz, don’t have a convulsion… – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->x-no-archive: yes >Your obsession with Hopper has become boring beyond the capacity of >words to describe. >It’s time to stalk someone else. >Why don’t you stalk me? >I think I’ve become a paragon as far as medications are concerned, and >yet I manage to function very well. >I’m certainly functioning more adequately than I would if I weren’t >taking the meds. >If you want to hound a consumer of pharmaceuticals, I’m your man. The >following is a listing of the meds I take. >Celebrex, 200 mg daily,                 one 100 mg cap twice a day >clonazepam, 8 mg daily,                 two 2 mg  tabs four times a day as needed; >Lamictal, 500 mg daily,                 one 100 mg tab five times a day; >methylphenidate, 20 mg daily,           one 10 mg tab twice daily >Neurontin, 3600 mg daily,               one 600 mg tab four times a day, & >                                        one 300 mg cap four times a day; >Rhinocort Aqua nasal spray, >64 mcg daily, 32 mcg per accuation, >                                        one accuation each nostril daily; >Synthroid, 150 mcg daily,               one 125 mcg tab upon awakening; >Ultram, 400 mg daily,                   two 50 mg tabs four times a day as >needed. >Wellbutrin SR, 500 mg daily,            one 100 mg  tab five times a day; >The details are provided below, if you’re interested. >The Celebrex, 100mg twice daily, manages to completely eliminate pain >resulting from osteoarthritris in my knees. >Clonazepam is one of the generics I take, _ >I_take_two_2mg_tabs_four_times_daily_. That amounts to 16mg daily. Have >you ever heard of anybody taking that much clonazepam/Klonopin daily >.Neurontin is the only drug they’ve prescribed that has managed to keep >my manic symptoms under control, but if I’m really stressed-out it fails >to control the manic side of my mixed episodes adequately. The only >other drug that has helped is clonazepam. >It’s not really surprising that it has anti-manic capability because >it’s an atypical anticonvulsant, and every drug used to treat >manic-depression except Lithium is an atypical anticonvulsant. The >Nurse’s PDR lists ‘acute manic episodes of bipolar affective disorder’ >as one of its ‘investigational’ uses. >I also take the clonazepam because I have Panic Disorder, with >avoidance, which is generally referred to as agoraphobia. The clonazepam >keeps my agoraphobia under a sufficient degree of control that I can do >things like go to Marc’s to get my groceries, etceteras. My bank is >across the street from Marc’s, there’s a Pet Supplies Plus in the same >little strip mall as Marc’s. The library is a couple of blocks away and >Discount Drug Mart, where I get almost everything that I don’t get at >Marc’s and where I pay my bills. The library is across the street from >Drug Mart, and they’ll deliver and pick up books at my doorstep when I’m >doing badly and I won’t leave the apartment. Their catalog is online. >Cleveland Public Library, the largest and finest library system between >New York and Chicago, also has it’s catalog online and they also pick up >and deliver books to my doorstep, via UPS. >There’s a Record Revolution outlet between Marc’s and the library where >I special-order most of my World Music CD’s. >My internist is in a building, a ’satellite site’ of the Cleveland >Clinic where they only practice Pediatrics and Internal Medicine, about >five buildings past the one I live in, and a van from the hospital where >I see my pdoc picks me up and drops me off at my doorstep. That’s the >only time I go outside of my ‘territory’ unless I’m with my caseworker. >The drugstore where I’ve gotten my prescriptions for over twenty years >is at the far end of the northern side of my ‘territory’ >Five 100mg tabs of Lamictal daily is a huge amount. The Nurse’s PDR >lists 400mg as the maximum maintenance dose to be used for the treatment >of atypical epilepsy. It wasn’t until the pdoc added that extra 100mg >tab daily that I started to feel that it was keeping my depressive >symptoms under control at all. >Today the pdoc prescribed methylphenidate, also known as Ritalin, one >10mg tablet twice daily. Though my mood as been fairly stable, I’ve been >very apathetic, and to say that I dread the coming of the ‘holidays’ and >my 50th birthday would be an exercise in understatement. I figure the >methylphenidate will back up my other antidepressant meds, and it will >most certainly get me moving. I’ve been spending days at a time doing >nothing but reading, ignoring the housekeeping and the houseplants: two >of my ferns died back to the ground. At least I’ve been feeding the >fish. My freshwater tropical fish are so beautiful, and most of the ones >that I have, Malawi peacocks and New Guinea rainbowfish, become more >colorful as they mature. Most of the fish sold at pet stores are >juveniles. I have seven aquariums, but most are very sparsely populated >because they have special fish in them. >Neurontin, 900mg four times daily, yessir, that’s 3600mg of Neurontin >daily. The Neurontin has the added benefit of keeping my fibromyalgia in >remission most of the time. >I use the Rhinocort Aqua Nasal Spray once a day, one squirt in each >nostril, for Vasomotor Rhinitis, which is quite common among those who >have fibromyalgia. I started using it fairly recently. Before that I >used Vancenase for about twenty years, but the Rhinocort works better. >I take the 150mcg of Synthroid daily because I had Grave’s Disease and >they had to destroy my thyroid gland with radioactive iodine. >I can take the Ultram, as much as two 50mg tabs four times a day, as >needed, for pain from the fibromyalgia, which rears its ugly head >commonly when I’m under extreme stress. I’ve only had to take it two or >three times weekly since this latest mixed episode cycle began, but, >like I already said, I’m sure that the Neurontin is what’s keeping it in >remission, because it wasn’t until after I started my present dose of >Neurontin that my fibromyalgia has been in remission most of the time. >Finally, I take 500mg, that’s right folks, I said 500mg, of Wellbutrin >daily. It wasn’t until the pdoc increased my anti-manic meds to their >present level that I could take any antidepressant, and only recently, >about a week after the pdoc increased the dosage to 500mg, that I >finally feel that my depressive symptoms are under a sufficient degree >of control.

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>Hi, >Does anyone have any opinion on smoking cannabis while on accutane? A >site said that tobacco and marijuana reduces the effect of accutane. >Roche mentions nothing about this, so I was wondering if the only >negative effect of cannabis is a possible enhancement of depression. >Has anyone smoked cannabis while on accutane, and if so, how did it >affect you and how did it affect the effect of the accutane?

I smoked pot during my first and second courses of Accutane with no problems at all.  The doctor took blood samples for liver analysis and everything checked out okay.  You must avoid alcohol, though, as it is very hard on the liver and will negatively affect Accutane treatment.

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Hi, Does anyone have any opinion on smoking cannabis while on accutane? A site said that tobacco and marijuana reduces the effect of accutane. Roche mentions nothing about this, so I was wondering if the only negative effect of cannabis is a possible enhancement of depression. Has anyone smoked cannabis while on accutane, and if so, how did it affect you and how did it affect the effect of the accutane? thanks, Mads

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> The biggest mistake I ever made was taking Paxil for depression after my divorce > The decision to take psychiatric medications is a personal one. I have chosen to stop > taking medications. I made this choice on my own after doing much research on the subject. > I was given no support from my therapist or psychiatrist for wanting to stop taking meds > but I quit them anyway. I spent several months slowly tapering off meds. I am very happy > with my decision. > I no longer believe that I ever had bipolar disorder or schizoaffective disorder. > The biggest mistake I ever made was taking Paxil for depression after my divorce. Paxil > made me manic and gave me horrible mood swings. Paxil made me feel

homicidal, while taking > Paxil I obsessed about murdering a man and I had a plan. I asked my doctor for help > because I felt like killing a man, I told him I was not depressed but

"help" was to double – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> my dose of Paxil. He noted in my chart that I was in a cheerful mood but he doubled my > Paxil. > On a double dose of paxil I became manic and obsessive and began to cut my own flesh. > While manic on Paxil I was diagnosed with "bipolar disorder" later as more drugs were > added I became sicker and sicker and my diagnosis was changed to "Schizoaffective > disorder". (I was also taken off Paxil cold turkey and this drug is known to cause > withdrawal psychosis / mania) Now that I have quit taking medications I am fine. I’ve not > had a mood swing or "psychotic episode" since I went off medications nearly a year ago. > The longer I took Anti psychotic medication the more psychotic I became. I had major > problems with Risperdal making me manic and psychotic. Risperdal is known to cause mania. > (Dwight and colleagues reported that six patients with Schizoaffective disorder all > developed new or increased manic symptoms after about a week of

risperidone treatment-and – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> two of these patients were taking "concomitant mood stabilizers.") But my doctors never > made the connection on their own. > Each time I tapered off my final anti psychotic (Seroquel) I became more psychotic that I > was before I took the medication. Doctors call this "rebound psychosis" but I waited it > out and the psychosis went away after a week. Each week I was able to taper down till I > was off it all together. Some people confuse drug withdrawal psychosis with the original > symptoms. > I am very angry for the pain my child and I have suffered through at the hands of > psychiatry. I now suffer from a drug Induced Movement disorder. I lost my innocence, my > childhood, my career, my self esteem, my college scholarship, a chance to go to high > school, and years of my daughter’s childhood to psychiatry and

indiscriminate psychiatric – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> drugging. > I still see a therapist whom I mostly trust and now find the support that I get from her > to be invaluable. I had to quit taking meds for my mind to be clear enough for her to be > able to help me. > My goal is to tirelessly spread the word about the dangers of Psychiatry and psychiatric > drugging in the hopes that others will not have to go through what I did. >

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Montgomery  2780 N 4th St, Wytheville, VA (276) 228-4837

>Then perhaps U  SHOULD QUIT BRINGING IT UP! ! ! !

too bloody true!!!! Yes very true.. I don’t know why he brought it up, things were going so well.. V was so happy.. then Richard has to start that crap again… sigh… — Please sign my guest book http://www.virginiacaves.org/feedback.html

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i could post some more copyright law stuff? m~ – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Cmon guys, You really need better Bullshit, This crap is so Yesterday, > Yawn, Yawn, Yawn. > Scott

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Just sit back and enjoy the show. Ivar spent over a million on this year’s fireworks display.

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Montgomery  2780 N 4th St, Wytheville, VA (276) 228-4837 >I’m all for going back to helping people with problems and finding >some new toons for the Hug and Roses band. >HoPpeR

Ha ha ha… we all know better than that.. try again dog killing faggot… — Please sign my guest book http://www.virginiacaves.org/feedback.html

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>After accusing Shawnie of hacking into other peoples computers when >they visited her web site

What precisely did you expect when you made these malicious allegations? >I don’t want to start a flame war, but

You expect any credibility here? >I can’t stand by and say >nothing about Shawnie stealing information from other peoples >computers which she will surely use against those persons in the >future.

You are impelled to make malicious allegations then? Your evidence for this is? >I only found out about the hacking when I finally broke down and >clicked on the link myself and had my firewall software warn me of the >port probe.

for someone who professes such computer knowledge its odd that you dont seem to know the differnce between a port probe and hacking!  I am pro-choice, but >would not under most conditions suggest to anyone to go against their >doctors advice, something that Shawnie does often.

Hundreds of people know you are lying here your evidence for this is? >   I want the group back >that I found a few years ago

things change over time. Do you really think you can just march into a group and rearrange it to your liking?  those who try to turn back the wheel of History inevitably end up crushed underneath it. Are you aware this was a happy supportive broad church before your recent arrival? Why not get off your high horse and just join in?

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I wish it would return to a support group, I get so tired of this shit. I know Shawnees puppets dont like me, But I dont care for them either. I think Paul aka Hopper, dont deserve this shit. I dont hnow how anyone can take her puppets seriously, some are even well liked, even though they dont exist. I am on Pauls side, at least hes a real person not a figment of some schizzos imagiation. Thanks,  ScottT

– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> After accusing Shawnie of hacking into other peoples computers when > they visited her web site, Shawnie has started an all out campaign > against me and well just about everyone. This is a very good > opportunity for those that are confused as to who is who to pick out > the Shawnie sock puppets here. Look for the posters that are attacking > me and at the same time making explanations about how they are not > really Shawnie. Some are even suggesting that Shawnie is not a real > person but someone that I have made up. More sock puppets. Although > there may be a few individuals that post supporting Shawnie and attack > me that are not in fact Shawnie in drag, these people are few, Linda G > being one of them. This is fast escalating into an all out war against > me and I want to point out that I did not start it. All I did was > expose Shawnie’s hacking after she did this to me. I response to this > she now is: > 1.Fabricating  slanderous posts that are suppose to be by me in other > news groups that I either frequent or is geographically linked to me. > 2. Reposting actual posts by me to other NGs but changing the content > slightly to change the meaning altogether. > 3. Doing Google searches on me, which find mainly slanderous post made > in the past my her or Andrew and passing these off as being valid > information about me.(which it is not) > 4. Suggesting affiliations with groups and organizations that I have > never had anything to do with. > 5. Forging posts by other people that caste dispersions on me and the > person forged. > 6. Flooding other newsgroups with these posts in an attempt to > leverage me into keeping silent about her activities by attempting to > making the members of those other NG’s mad at me. (This does not work) > 7. She has over the past year or so selectively archived certain > manipulated posts while insuring that others did not get archived so > that a Google search would show a lopsided story of my and other > peoples history here. > 8. She attack not only me but my wife. She posts my real name, address > and phone number. She posts the name of my business which yes I am the > president of. > 9. She wrongly accuses me of animal cruelty. > 10. She wrongly accuses me of homosexuality which is not a crime and > nothing to be ashamed of anyway. It says something about her that she > thinks it is. > 11. She accuses me of being a oxycotin addict and a pot user. I was on > oxycotin three years ago under a doctors orders and have not taken any > sense. I freely admit to self medicating with pot before I say a > doctor and it was the best thing I could have done. I have not smoke > any in three years, since I started meds. She posts lies. > 12. She post that I use medications that I have never even seen > before. Pure fabrications that appear to get written down as they pop > into her head. > I don’t want to start a flame war, but I can’t stand by and say > nothing about Shawnie stealing information from other peoples > computers which she will surely use against those persons in the > future. She actively advertized her web sites and posted the links to > them in her tag line and the end of all her posts for some months now. > I only found out about the hacking when I finally broke down and > clicked on the link myself and had my firewall software warn me of the > port probe. > I have never met someone so single minded and devoted to creating a > false group of identities and using them to disrupt support groups. > She has admitted that she is on a crusade against psychiatric medicine > and mentally ill people. She has stated that she feels that they > should all be gotten rid of. She is dangerous > For the record, I am not against alternatives to medications for > mental illness. Indeed, I think that in almost all cases that other > forms of treatment should be used in conjunction. I am pro-choice, but > would not under most conditions suggest to anyone to go against their > doctors advice, something that Shawnie does often. > I want to end this, but I will not end it by being forced into > silence. I am going to do everything I can to keep this whole thing > from getting to the point of disrupting the group and I want very much > to go back to replying to those who ask BP related questions, or just > need help in getting through a tough time. This is what this group is > suppose to be about. It’s not what Shawnie wants it to be about. She > want’s it to be her platform to preach the evils of psychiatry. All > you beeper out there help me. Don’t let her keep this group down. > Learn to read the headers and take the time to do so. Make it so she > cannot hide behind her tricks and stand united I want the group back > that I found a few years ago that was so helpful to me that it most > likely saved my life, and yes back then I was unmedicated. > I’m all for going back to helping people with problems and finding > some new toons for the Hug and Roses band. > HoPpeR

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Shizoaffective is not what these two have and definitely not PTSD, and absolutely positively not bipolar. After three years of research, it comes to my attention that more in the area of Boarderline Personality Disorder and Dissociative Identity Disorder is closer to it, if getting stuck with DSM IV defs is all I get to choose from. http://www.soulselfhelp.on.ca/drm1.html "What is the difference between BPD and the spectrum of dissociative disorders?" and it’s

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Answers to the quiz Don’t peek if you haven’t given it a try! Spoiler * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 1 How long did the Hundred Years War last? 2 Which country makes Panama hats? 3 From which animal do we get catgut? 4 In which month do Russians celebrate the October Revolution? 5 What is a camel’s hair brush made of? 6 The Canary Islands in the Atlantic are named after what animal 7 What was King George VI’s first name? 8 What colour is a purple finch? 9 Where are Chinese gooseberries from? 10 How long did the Thirty Years War last? — Answers to the quiz 1  116 years, from 1337 to 1453. 2  Ecuador. 3  From sheep and horses. 4  November. The Russian calendar was 13 days behind ours. 5  Squirrel fur. 6  The Latin name was Insularia Canaria – Island of the Dogs. 7  Albert. When he came to the throne in 1936 he respected the    wish of Queen Victoria that no future king should ever be    called Albert. 8  Distinctively crimson. 9  New Zealand. 10 Thirty years, of course. From 1618 to 1648.

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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> "BeckySiz" wrote > "TK" wrote > > The world’s easiest quiz . . . or is it? > > 1 How long did the Hundred Years War last? 116 years > > 2 Which country makes Panama hats? Ecuador > > 3 From which animal do we get catgut? Sheep > > 4 In which month do Russians celebrate the October Revolution? November > > 5 What is a camel’s hair brush made of? Squirrels > > 6 The Canary Islands in the Atlantic are named after what animal? Dog > > 7 What was King George VI’s first name? Albert > > 8 What colour is a purple finch? Red > > 9 Where are Chinese gooseberries from? New Zeeland > > 10 How long did the Thirty Years War last? 30 > > Answers will be provided later  :) > > TK > I love useless info!!! > You think *this* is useless? Wait until you see the posts I’ve planned for > later > Nah, just kiddin’… > Hey how are you btw? I was waiting for your report of your playing in the > leafs – how did it go?

Sorry I did not report back…..it was great!  We went and walked along the river too and seen all the beautiful fall colors.  We walked about 3 miles, which really tired out the kids!!! The kids are only 3,4,6 so it was one heck of a walk for them.  We seen fish jumping and littel creatures gathering nuts and such for winter, it was great!  Thank for asking, and I will be waiting for more fun stuff from you! — Becky I don’t have issues I have subscriptions – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Hugs, > TK

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->"BeckySiz" <wrote >"TK" <wrote > Hey how are you btw? I was waiting for your report of your playing in the > leafs – how did it go? > Sorry I did not report back…..it was great!  We went and walked along the > river too and seen all the beautiful fall colors.  We walked about 3 miles, > which really tired out the kids!!! The kids are only 3,4,6 so it was one > heck of a walk for them.  We seen fish jumping and littel creatures > gathering nuts and such for winter, it was great!  Thank for asking, and I > will be waiting for more fun stuff from you! > — > Becky > I don’t have issues > I have subscriptions

Aww that sounds so lovely! Really glad you did get out and that you all had such a great time ) Bet the kids had a great time too. Thanks so much for sharing – it’s so inspiring, makes me wanna get out myself *

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>Can’t get to it…..like this:

I just pulled the first short link I saw in the pile of Google results for ‘Rescue Cream’.  The link I posted worked okay for me.  [shrug] >The reason I say go to a naturopath is because he/she can add drops of >other Bach floral essences to tailor the cream to your specific needs. >Check out this link:

Don’t get me started on either naturopaths or Bach flower therapy.  :) – Dave W. http://psorsite.com/

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I have the same problem and this is how I have managed to keep it under control. Coal tar once a day on my penis. A few seconds (maybe 10) of light treatment on my penis every 2-3 days.  You have to make sure you expose the problem areas to the light. Before I began using coal tar I was using UVB for up to a minute or two.  Very dangerous, but it usually worked.  Before that I used light steriods but my skin was getting very thin.  Scary! The coal tar may be dangerous too.  When it is under control, I only put it on every other day or so.  When it’s real bad, 2 times a day. It’s constant maintenance.  Goes away for a short while and makes a reappearence.  That’s when I double up on the coal tar and zap some UVB. Good luck, Ed

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    The MTX appears to be working fairly well.  And I am only at 10mg, so there is room to go up if necessary.  I am hoping, that if I keep it supressed long enough, when I wean off the MTX it will stay away, but I know all too well how persistant P is.  At least for now I can get some sort of relief. Dan

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Oh one more question Ed, did the thinning recover when you stopped the steroids?  I am assuming it will if you lay off the steroid creams. I myself rarely use the desowen myseld, I either use Protopic, or good ol’ Zinc Oxide Cream, which I still think sooths and reduces inflammation better than Petroleum Jelly Alone. Dan

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Can’t get to it…..like this: http://www.shop-naturally.com/content/shopping/product.asp?pID=39 The reason I say go to a naturopath is because he/she can add drops of other Bach floral essences to tailor the cream to your specific needs. Check out this link: http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Try going to a naturopath and ask for a cream call Rescue.  I find it >helps for calming the pain. > Do you mean this? >    http://www.naturallythinking.net/shop/details.asp?prodID=346 > – Dave W. > http://psorsite.com/

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>Try going to a naturopath and ask for a cream call Rescue.  I find it >helps for calming the pain.

Do you mean this?    http://www.naturallythinking.net/shop/details.asp?prodID=346 – Dave W. http://psorsite.com/

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 I am 24, in pain, and have already gone 50% crazy the other 50% should > be comin soon > Does anyone get a major burning sensation 24 hours a day on their > genital psoriasis….It doesn’t itch, it doesn’t flake it just burns > all the time and its not super dry and flaky….It is a red area on > the left side of my penis just below the head when the penis is flacid > it is where the skin folds together. also I should not that it does > not hurt to the touch but it hurts all the time and is visibly very > red and shiny when it is at its worst…it never ruptures, it never > bleads, and it never blisters..but sometime the area looks a little > swollen and I had a biopsy to rule out lichen schlrosis…I have been > tested for everything and I mean everything….some irritable bowel > syndrome and urethritis/prostatitis problems also……but the derm > always sais that genital Psoriasis is not supposed to hurt…but mine > sure does if that is what it is….here is what I have tried….

    Josh my Story is exactly identical to yours, I have been depressed and going crazy myself the last 2 years dealing with this shit.  I am 26 myself, so having this at such a young age, is very very hard.  What I have come down to is this, its definitely autoimmune, and we have it down to either Flexural/Inverse Psoriasis or Reiter’s type rash.  Definitely subject to major koebner effects, so sex, masturbation, anything flares it like a mother and take a week of intense treatment to get it back into order.  I have had the urethritis symptoms which are less now, and even had surgery for meatal stenosis, cause the long term inflammation closed my urethra up. Fun stuff isn’t it?  I even go as far as to do my own meatal surgery myself with a razor once in a while when it closes up.  Doctors for the longest time were clueless, and couldn’t tell me what was up.  Nothing barely touched it for any extent of time.  What finally began to work is the big guns, Methotrexate.  My liver was slightly elevated last blood test, so I got on Milk Thistle, hopefully It doesn’t keep elevating, because then my only hope is gone.  like you, I am tortured non stop, it hurts to walk, to move, and especially to have any kind of sexual relations.  So my new wife also feels the brunt of this horrible affliction.  I take celexa for depression and the MTX right now, and just hope it someday goes away, so far its been 2.5 years and its slowly getting worse.  Honestly, and I don’t mean to sound negative, but I would much rather have cancer than this shit, at least it kills you or goes into remission, it doesn’t torture you for the rest of your life like Psoriasis does, especially in that area.  Anyways Josh, seems like I am in it for the long haul, as it sounds like you are also, so if you ever need anybody to talk to, it might be benefecial for both of us.  Not very many people have it to the degree we have it in that area, lucky us huh?  Why couldn’t this luck be used for winning the lottery? hehe  I’m not even sure what to tell you man, some days I feel like taking my life over the mental, physical pain this damn disease has caused me. Whats the worse part?  Lack of treatment options.  take care. Dan

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>I am 24, in pain, and have already gone 50% crazy the other 50% should >be comin soon >Does anyone get a major burning sensation 24 hours a day on their >genital psoriasis….It doesn’t itch, it doesn’t flake it just burns >all the time and its not super dry and flaky….It is a red area on >the left side of my penis just below the head when the penis is flacid

Try the other Vit D analogue Curatoderm. It is non-irritant and it works on mine. I’ve also tried Canestan Hydrocortisone, available over the counter and that works well also. — David Bentley

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Josh, Try going to a naturopath and ask for a cream call Rescue.  I find it helps for calming the pain. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am 24, in pain, and have already gone 50% crazy the other 50% should > be comin soon > Does anyone get a major burning sensation 24 hours a day on their > genital psoriasis….It doesn’t itch, it doesn’t flake it just burns > all the time and its not super dry and flaky….It is a red area on > the left side of my penis just below the head when the penis is flacid > it is where the skin folds together. also I should not that it does > not hurt to the touch but it hurts all the time and is visibly very > red and shiny when it is at its worst…it never ruptures, it never > bleads, and it never blisters..but sometime the area looks a little > swollen and I had a biopsy to rule out lichen schlrosis…I have been > tested for everything and I mean everything….some irritable bowel > syndrome and urethritis/prostatitis problems also……but the derm > always sais that genital Psoriasis is not supposed to hurt…but mine > sure does if that is what it is….here is what I have tried…. > psoriasin > cortisone creams (the most recent is the very week one made by aveeno > it seems less potent and harsh. > fungal creams of all sorts (nizoral, oxiconozole, spectazole, and over > the counters) > desitin(diaper rash zinc formula) > neurontin for pain (800mg pills 4 times daily) > kolonopin ( 1mg 3 to 4 times a day or as needed) , xanax ( taken off > due to fear of addiction but I was up to 3 to 5 mg a day depending on > how much I hurt.), and mass amounts of marijuana to stabilize the > pain.(the psychiatrist said it was ok)

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Dovonex is pretty strong for that area. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->sure does if that is what it is….here is what I have tried…. > Have you tried, um, avoiding any friction in that area for a week or > three? > Should you get some psoriasis there, and then thin the skin further > with steroids, I can believe it might bother you chronically.  I only > hope it’s something that will clear, given a chance and some meds.  I > might recommend you try some Dovonex there, probably diluted w > vaseline, I’ve often found it helps restore skin oversensitized by > psoriasis, steroids, scratching and such. > If it’s pretty certainly psoriasis, and it’s that severe, it might > also be a reason for a derm to give you thirty days on Neoral, to try > to get it to clear at least temporarily. > J.

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I am 24, in pain, and have already gone 50% crazy the other 50% should be comin soon Does anyone get a major burning sensation 24 hours a day on their genital psoriasis….It doesn’t itch, it doesn’t flake it just burns all the time and its not super dry and flaky….It is a red area on the left side of my penis just below the head when the penis is flacid it is where the skin folds together. also I should not that it does not hurt to the touch but it hurts all the time and is visibly very red and shiny when it is at its worst…it never ruptures, it never bleads, and it never blisters..but sometime the area looks a little swollen and I had a biopsy to rule out lichen schlrosis…I have been tested for everything and I mean everything….some irritable bowel syndrome and urethritis/prostatitis problems also……but the derm always sais that genital Psoriasis is not supposed to hurt…but mine sure does if that is what it is….here is what I have tried…. psoriasin cortisone creams (the most recent is the very week one made by aveeno it seems less potent and harsh. fungal creams of all sorts (nizoral, oxiconozole, spectazole, and over the counters) desitin(diaper rash zinc formula) neurontin for pain (800mg pills 4 times daily) kolonopin ( 1mg 3 to 4 times a day or as needed) , xanax ( taken off due to fear of addiction but I was up to 3 to 5 mg a day depending on how much I hurt.), and mass amounts of marijuana to stabilize the pain.(the psychiatrist said it was ok)

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My dermatologist has me use Desowen on my penis, my crotch and even my face, or wherever I need a mild steroid. It usually clears it up within a few days. In the area you mention and the crease on either side of the genitals I get inverse psoriasis. In the crease area and behind my ears I use Polysporin before the Desowen because in my case there is often a secondary, non fungal, infection that has to be treated at the same time. I have never had it as bad as you describe, but have had enough to be very uncomfortable and unable to have sex with my wife. I feel for you and wish you the best of luck. I hope you find something that works real soon. Chuck – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > I am 24, in pain, and have already gone 50% crazy the other 50% should > be comin soon > Does anyone get a major burning sensation 24 hours a day on their > genital psoriasis….It doesn’t itch, it doesn’t flake it just burns > all the time and its not super dry and flaky….It is a red area on > the left side of my penis just below the head when the penis is flacid > it is where the skin folds together. also I should not that it does > not hurt to the touch but it hurts all the time and is visibly very > red and shiny when it is at its worst…it never ruptures, it never > bleads, and it never blisters..but sometime the area looks a little > swollen and I had a biopsy to rule out lichen schlrosis…I have been > tested for everything and I mean everything….some irritable bowel > syndrome and urethritis/prostatitis problems also……but the derm > always sais that genital Psoriasis is not supposed to hurt…but mine > sure does if that is what it is….here is what I have tried…. > psoriasin > cortisone creams (the most recent is the very week one made by aveeno > it seems less potent and harsh. > fungal creams of all sorts (nizoral, oxiconozole, spectazole, and over > the counters) > desitin(diaper rash zinc formula) > neurontin for pain (800mg pills 4 times daily) > kolonopin ( 1mg 3 to 4 times a day or as needed) , xanax ( taken off > due to fear of addiction but I was up to 3 to 5 mg a day depending on > how much I hurt.), and mass amounts of marijuana to stabilize the > pain.(the psychiatrist said it was ok)

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>sure does if that is what it is….here is what I have tried….

Have you tried, um, avoiding any friction in that area for a week or three? Should you get some psoriasis there, and then thin the skin further with steroids, I can believe it might bother you chronically.  I only hope it’s something that will clear, given a chance and some meds.  I might recommend you try some Dovonex there, probably diluted w vaseline, I’ve often found it helps restore skin oversensitized by psoriasis, steroids, scratching and such. If it’s pretty certainly psoriasis, and it’s that severe, it might also be a reason for a derm to give you thirty days on Neoral, to try to get it to clear at least temporarily. J.

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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Starved N Koreans eating grass to survive >BEIJING, China (CNN) –A severe shortage of food aid is forcing hungry North Koreans to >scrounge for grass and seaweed, the United Nations says. >Of course they , the Chinese Ive read were busy bayoneting and pushing >the fleeing N. Koreans back into the country toi certain death. >Ive heard Himmler said the samething — Better for Jews to die at >home in the camps than for them to possibly die from American >Imperialistic aggression!   >PLONK

You can’t double plonk someone.  Now that address is unplonked. — Diagnosis and treatment of mental problems have been subject to whim since shamans first rattled gourds over the heads of lunatics. Despite claims of scientific advances, that hasn’t changed.

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>Starved N Koreans eating grass to survive >BEIJING, China (CNN) –A severe shortage of food aid is forcing hungry North Koreans to >scrounge for grass and seaweed, the United Nations says.

Of course they , the Chinese Ive read were busy bayoneting and pushing the fleeing N. Koreans back into the country toi certain death. Ive heard Himmler said the samething — Better for Jews to die at home in the camps than for them to possibly die from American Imperialistic aggression!   PLONK

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Starved N Koreans eating grass to survive BEIJING, China (CNN) –A severe shortage of food aid is forcing hungry North Koreans to scrounge for grass and seaweed, the United Nations says. Warning of a new threat of famine in the communist country, the U.N.’s World Food Programme says hundreds of thousands of North Koreans are abandoning work and school in a desperate effort to stave off hunger. "They’re going up into the mountains in search of edible grasses. They’re on the beaches collecting seaweed," WFP spokesman Gerald Bourke said in Beijing after visiting North Korea. "Teachers say attendance at school is down because children are out collecting wild foods. Teachers themselves and so-called caregivers at kindergartens, nurseries and the like are having to take time off from work for the same reason." The WFP was forced to temporarily suspend distribution of food aid to around 1.2 million secondary school children, elderly people, caregivers and teachers between May and August because of a lack of pledges from donor nations, Bourke said. Distribution projects to 500,000 North Korean workers have also been cut back. More needed The U.N. agency supplies food to about 6.4 million of North Korea’s 23 million people and aims to make up nearly half of the reclusive state’s food shortfall in 2002 — about 611,000 tons. Despite a pledge of 100,000 metric tons of wheat, rice and dairy products from the United States earlier this month, North Korea faces a chronic food situation until more donations fill the food pipeline in August, Bourke said. Crops planted in the spring are also beginning to ripen, but this is expected to make up only around a tenth of North Korea’s food needs, he added. Six countries — the United States, South Korea, Germany, Australia, Cuba and Finland — have contributed to the WPF program in North Korea in 2002. Japan — North Korea’s largest donor in 2001, contributing more than half of all WPF food to the communist state — has yet to make a pledge this year. Chronic malnutrition North Korea’s food shortage started in 1991, when the former Soviet Union collapsed and its satellite states stopped sending food and other economic aid. Since 1995, floods, droughts and tropical storms have exacerbated the country’s agricultural and industrial problems. Aid agencies estimate that hundreds of thousands of North Koreans have died of famine, malnutrition and related diseases since the mid-1990s. The food crisis and claims of political repression are spurring an exodus of refugees, with tens of thousands sneaking into China to escape hunger, analysts say. A recent series of embarrassing defections at foreign missions in China have further highlighted the hardship faced by many North Koreans. Official North Korean estimates indicated that 45 percent of children under five are chronically malnourished. Though government food rations had increased in June to an average of 350 grams per person a day from 250 grams in May because of a good harvest of vegetables, wheat and barley, this figure is about half the minimum recommended level. Bourke said that during his one-week visit, only a handful of students in a class of third graders in the eastern city of Kimchaek had eaten meat in the last month, instead relying on a basic staple of maize. "Their were 25 pupils and only three of them has any meat in the last month," Bourke said. "Very occasionally an egg, a little bit of vegetable and that’s it." Find this article at: http://europe.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/east/06/20/nkorea.famine   — WARNING! When trying to withdraw from many psychiatric drugs, patients can develop serious and even life-threatening emotional and physical reactions. In short, it is dangerous not only to start taking psychiatric drugs but also can be hazardous to stop taking them. Therefore, withdrawal from psychiatric drugs should be done under clinical supervision. Principles of drug withdrawal are discussed in Your Drug May Be Your Problem: How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications. information on Prozac and Prozac-like drugs can be found in Talking Back to Prozac by Peter R. Breggin, M.D. and Ginger Ross Breggin. DSM IV is the fabrication upon which psychiatry seeks acceptance by medicine in general. Insiders know it is more a political than scientific document. To its credit it says so –Loren R. Mosher, M.D.

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>Mentally ill survivors to leave Israeli hospitals >JUDY SIEGEL >Jerusalem Post Service >JERUSALEM — Israel’s Health Ministry announced last week that it will transfer about 300 >Holocaust survivors from psychiatric hospitals where they’ve lived for decades into >hostels or old-age homes.

Anal Itching WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW Although itching around the anus can be a problem in itself, it is often a sign of some other disease or condition. Causes Although the reason cannot always be pinned down, anal itching is often caused by stool, moisture, soaps, or clothing that irritates the skin. It also can result from a tear in the skin, swollen anal veins (in adults), or parasites such as pinworms. Anal itching makes the skin red and swollen. Signs/Symptoms Itching around the anus may become worse at night. Skin in the area may be red and swollen Care Depends on the cause of the itching. If it is not a symptom of some other problem, the basic goal is to keep the area clean and dry. WHAT YOU SHOULD DO Don’t rub or scratch the area. This makes the itching worse. After every bowel movement and at bedtime, gently clean the anal area. Use a moistened tissue, cotton ball, or soft wash cloth. You also may use premoistened anal cleansing pads or tissues made for cleaning up babies. Don’t use soap. Gently pat the area dry. Put a thin strip of cotton directly on the anus. This helps absorb moisture and stool. The cotton should be thin enough so that you can’t feel it. Don’t use a cotton ball or sanitary pad. You may dust the cotton with corn starch or baby powder. Change the cotton several times a day. Wear underwear made of cotton or with a cotton crotch. Don’t wear tight-fitting clothes and underwear. Some foods and beverages may make the problem worse. Examples are beer, tea, coffee, milk, cola, tomatoes, citrus fruits, nuts, chocolate, and spicy foods. Avoid any that seem to increase the itching. Don’t use products that may irritate the anal skin. These include perfumed or colored toilet paper, deodorant sprays, and perfumed soaps. Don’t use any medicine, cream, or lotion on the anal area without checking with your doctor. Many products used to treat the itching can sometimes make it worse. Call Your Doctor If… The itching is not better in a few days or if it gets worse. You have a high temperature. The skin around the anus becomes red, swollen, or tender. This may be a sign of infection. Other members of your family also start itching.

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>What was that for? The thing about butts.

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>What was that for? The thing about butts.

That was phinney being weird. — I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser."                      -Mother Jones

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Hi Phinney! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Mentally ill survivors to leave Israeli hospitals >JUDY SIEGEL >Jerusalem Post Service >JERUSALEM — Israel’s Health Ministry announced last week that it will transfer about 300 >Holocaust survivors from psychiatric hospitals where they’ve lived for decades into >hostels or old-age homes. >Anal Itching >WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW >Although itching around the anus can be a problem in itself, it is >often a sign of some other disease or condition. >Causes >Although the reason cannot always be pinned down, anal itching is >often caused by stool, moisture, soaps, or clothing that irritates the >skin. It also can result from a tear in the skin, swollen anal veins >(in adults), or parasites such as pinworms. Anal itching makes the >skin red and swollen. >Signs/Symptoms >Itching around the anus may become worse at night. Skin in the area >may be red and swollen >Care >Depends on the cause of the itching. If it is not a symptom of some >other problem, the basic goal is to keep the area clean and dry. >WHAT YOU SHOULD DO >Don’t rub or scratch the area. This makes the itching worse. >After every bowel movement and at bedtime, gently clean the anal area. >Use a moistened tissue, cotton ball, or soft wash cloth. You also may >use premoistened anal cleansing pads or tissues made for cleaning up >babies. Don’t use soap. Gently pat the area dry. >Put a thin strip of cotton directly on the anus. This helps absorb >moisture and stool. The cotton should be thin enough so that you can’t >feel it. Don’t use a cotton ball or sanitary pad. You may dust the >cotton with corn starch or baby powder. Change the cotton several >times a day. >Wear underwear made of cotton or with a cotton crotch. Don’t wear >tight-fitting clothes and underwear. >Some foods and beverages may make the problem worse. Examples are >beer, tea, coffee, milk, cola, tomatoes, citrus fruits, nuts, >chocolate, and spicy foods. Avoid any that seem to increase the >itching. >Don’t use products that may irritate the anal skin. These include >perfumed or colored toilet paper, deodorant sprays, and perfumed >soaps. >Don’t use any medicine, cream, or lotion on the anal area without >checking with your doctor. Many products used to treat the itching can >sometimes make it worse. >Call Your Doctor If… >The itching is not better in a few days or if it gets worse. >You have a high temperature. >The skin around the anus becomes red, swollen, or tender. This may be >a sign of infection. >Other members of your family also start itching.

– I’m not a humanitarian, I’m a hell-raiser."                      -Mother Jones

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What was that for? The thing about butts. — angelfire(dot)com/zine/melsbasketcase melsbasketcase(dot)tripod(dot)com

| | >Mentally ill survivors to leave Israeli hospitals | >JUDY SIEGEL | > | >Jerusalem Post Service | > | > | >JERUSALEM — Israel’s Health Ministry announced last week that it will transfer about 300 | >Holocaust survivors from psychiatric hospitals where they’ve lived for decades into | >hostels or old-age homes. | > | | Anal Itching | | WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW | Although itching around the anus can be a problem in itself, it is | often a sign of some other disease or condition. | | Causes | Although the reason cannot always be pinned down, anal itching is | often caused by stool, moisture, soaps, or clothing that irritates the | skin. It also can result from a tear in the skin, swollen anal veins | (in adults), or parasites such as pinworms. Anal itching makes the | skin red and swollen. | Signs/Symptoms | Itching around the anus may become worse at night. Skin in the area | may be red and swollen | | Care | Depends on the cause of the itching. If it is not a symptom of some | other problem, the basic goal is to keep the area clean and dry. | WHAT YOU SHOULD DO | Don’t rub or scratch the area. This makes the itching worse. | After every bowel movement and at bedtime, gently clean the anal area. | Use a moistened tissue, cotton ball, or soft wash cloth. You also may | use premoistened anal cleansing pads or tissues made for cleaning up | babies. Don’t use soap. Gently pat the area dry. | Put a thin strip of cotton directly on the anus. This helps absorb | moisture and stool. The cotton should be thin enough so that you can’t | feel it. Don’t use a cotton ball or sanitary pad. You may dust the | cotton with corn starch or baby powder. Change the cotton several | times a day. | | Wear underwear made of cotton or with a cotton crotch. Don’t wear | tight-fitting clothes and underwear. | Some foods and beverages may make the problem worse. Examples are | beer, tea, coffee, milk, cola, tomatoes, citrus fruits, nuts, | chocolate, and spicy foods. Avoid any that seem to increase the | itching. | | Don’t use products that may irritate the anal skin. These include | perfumed or colored toilet paper, deodorant sprays, and perfumed | soaps. | Don’t use any medicine, cream, or lotion on the anal area without | checking with your doctor. Many products used to treat the itching can | sometimes make it worse. | Call Your Doctor If… | The itching is not better in a few days or if it gets worse. | You have a high temperature. | The skin around the anus becomes red, swollen, or tender. This may be | a sign of infection. | Other members of your family also start itching. | | |

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Someone was being an ass. >What was that for? The thing about butts.

– Diagnosis and treatment of mental problems have been subject to whim since shamans first rattled gourds over the heads of lunatics. Despite claims of scientific advances, that hasn’t changed.

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Mentally ill survivors to leave Israeli hospitals JUDY SIEGEL Jerusalem Post Service JERUSALEM — Israel’s Health Ministry announced last week that it will transfer about 300 Holocaust survivors from psychiatric hospitals where they’ve lived for decades into hostels or old-age homes. Two organizations, one that helps Holocaust survivors and the other that assists mental patients, welcomed the decision. Health Minister Yehoshua Matza made the decision after hearing recommendations from a public committee established by the Justice and Health ministries several months ago to investigate claims of poor treatment of Holocaust survivors living in mental hospitals. The committee, which must still present a final report, was appointed after an investigative report by the Ma’ariv newspaper. The article claimed almost 1,000 Holocaust survivors, confined to psychiatric institutions in stark conditions since the early days of the state, have been deprived of German reparations that are instead being held by Israel’s General Custodian. The Health Ministry has asked Amcha, the national center for psycho-social support for Holocaust survivors and their children, to help prepare rehabilitation plans for those patients who will be moved into the community. Amcha director Jon Lemberger said most of the 300 survivors are currently living in private, rather than state-owned, institutions. Shmuel Cohen, chairman of Enosh/Israel Mental Health Association, said that while moving elderly patients from hospitals where they have lived for decades to another place could be traumatic, it was "1,000 times better" to be granted better living conditions and to lose the stigma of being confined to a psychiatric institution. Dr. Ze’ev Kaplan, head of the ministry’s psychiatric services, denied allegations that some survivors who live in psychiatric hospitals are not mentally ill, but were put there because there was no other place for them. "In some who have gotten older, the manifestations of active mental illness have waned, to be taken over by dementia and other problems of old age. They can be treated in nursing institutions, but this doesn’t mean they didn’t and don’t suffer from mental illness," he said. Under the plan, no survivor will be moved to an old-age home without permission from patients or their families. — WARNING! When trying to withdraw from many psychiatric drugs, patients can develop serious and even life-threatening emotional and physical reactions. In short, it is dangerous not only to start taking psychiatric drugs but also can be hazardous to stop taking them. Therefore, withdrawal from psychiatric drugs should be done under clinical supervision. Principles of drug withdrawal are discussed in Your Drug May Be Your Problem: How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications. information on Prozac and Prozac-like drugs can be found in Talking Back to Prozac by Peter R. Breggin, M.D. and Ginger Ross Breggin. DSM IV is the fabrication upon which psychiatry seeks acceptance by medicine in general. Insiders know it is more a political than scientific document. To its credit it says so –Loren R. Mosher, M.D.

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